Re: [ATM] AOL woes

[Michael Sallman <msallman@pro-ns.net>]

Donald, Bob and all,

It looks like the nav.to domain is owned by FortuneCity.com. The box is 
apparently hosted by Inflow, who were recently bought by Sungard.....
Probably more information than anyone wanted to know, especially on a Saturday 
morning. :-)

Mike

Donald Good wrote:
> Off ATM topics, but may explain some AOL and other ISP woes.

> I tried to find information about nav.to, but a search on various whois
> services gave "not found" or indicated Tonic, (referring to www.tonic.to)
> which is the governing registrar for .to domains.  Tonic states that
> information on .to domains is private and no whois service is available.
> While this is also within the rights of country code authorities, hiding
> ownership of domains is generally considered bad practice (more easily
> allowing spammers to operate) and may be why some ISPs block them.  Going to
> www.nav.to directly is relying on the owner/operator of the domain to report
> truthfully about itself which is "circular reasoning" so there is no
> guarantee of the results.

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$~ > ping -c 1 nav.to
PING nav.to (66.179.230.80) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 66.179.230.80: icmp_seq=1 ttl=246 time=1622 ms

--- nav.to ping statistics ---
1 packets transmitted, 1 received, 0% packet loss, time 0ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 1622.698/1622.698/1622.698/0.000 ms

$~ > whois 66.179.230.80
Inflow NFLO-AR-3 (NET-66-179-0-0-1)
                                   66.179.0.0 - 66.179.255.255
FortuneCity.com, INC. INFLOW-20899-106212-15120 (NET-66-179-224-0-1)
                                   66.179.224.0 - 66.179.231.255

# ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2005-09-23 19:10
# Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database.

$~ > whois fortunecity.com

Whois Server Version 1.3

Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered
with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net
for detailed information.

<SNIP A BUNCH OF WHOIS STUFF>

Registrant:
  FortuneCity.com, Inc
  322 Eighth Avenue
  New York, NY 10001
  US

  Domain name: FORTUNECITY.COM

  Administrative Contact:
     Admin, DNS  dns_admin@fortunecity.com
     322 Eighth Avenue
     New York, NY 10001
     US
     212-981-8600
  Technical Contact:
     Admin, DNS  dns_admin@fortunecity.com
     322 Eighth Avenue
     New York, NY 10001
     US
     212-981-8600


  Registration Service Provider:
     FortuneCity Hosting, dns@fortunecity.net
     +1.2129818600
     +1.2129818125 (fax)
     http://www.fortunecity.com
     This company may be contacted for domain login/passwords,
     DNS/Nameserver changes, and general domain support questions.


  Registrar of Record: TUCOWS, INC.
  Record last updated on 04-May-2005.
  Record expires on 02-Jul-2007.
  Record created on 03-Jul-1996.

  Domain servers in listed order:
     NS-1.AMPIRA.COM   66.179.231.6
     NS-2.AMPIRA.COM   66.179.231.7

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