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(ATM) Ferguson's mirror 1
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- Subject: (ATM) Ferguson's mirror 1
- From: Mel Bartels <mbartels@efn.org>
- Date: Thu, 26 Oct 95 15:03:32 PDT
- >Date: Thu, 26 Oct 95 9:36:12 MDT
- >From: kferguson@aquilagroup.com
- >Subject: (ATM) Ferguson's mirror 1
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- Reply-To: Mel Bartels <mbartels@efn.org>
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>
>
>Before starting my first project, I spent many hours in the archives reading
>nearly everything but the administrative posts. I found Allan Killian's
>"log" to be very inspiring, so I'm planning to do the same.
>
>HOWEVER, I realize that some will object on the grounds that "we've heard it
>all before". If you're one of those, then please e-mail me directly, and try
>to dissuade me. Encouragment would, of course, also be welcomed. It is,
>hwever, too late to stop the first installment, as you're already reading it
>:-). There are some embedded questions so please read this even if you don't
>need the inspiration.
>
>I received the abrasives kit yesterday from Willmann-Bell. I bought from
>them based on positive remarks from this group, and got the same prompt,
>accurate service others have reported.
>
>I'm still trying to come up with a good grinding stand..Steel drums just
>don't seem to be as common as when I was a kid. Ideas for alternatives, or
>suggestions as to where to find a drum, would be most welcome.
>
>I was quite anxious to see if my ceramic tool would work, so I put some wet
>newspaper on top of my washing machine (ahhh...the joys of bachelorhood!)
>Threw on some #60 (came with kit..books say start at 80??) and went at it.
>
>To my great relief, the tool seems to work great. Books say to expect my
>first wets to last "hardly a minute" with plate glass tool, but I got ~ 5-7
>minutes out of each of the two wets I did, with a nice "crunchy" sound/feel
>the whole time. I stopped there, because I can see that I am too lazy to turn
>the tool often enough..barrel walking seems like a better approach.
>
>The ceramic breaks down into clay, forming a runny paste with the water..this
>seems to do a nice job of lifting the grit up out of the channels.
>
>I have Sam Brown's book (Edmund) and have borrowed older editions of
>Texereau, and Barry from public library. Brown assumes I'm doing a 6". I
>presume I should pretty much double everything (pressure, time, amount of
>grit, etc.) for my 8" due to ratio of surface area, and volume of glass to be
>removed?? If this is wrong, somebody please clear this up for me. (I think
>Tex or Barry may have had a table..I'll go to library and check them out
>again tonight)
>
>f ratios???
>I was (niavly, I now think) first thinking of going for a f/4.5, but after
>playing around with sketches, and doing a lot of reading, I have toned down
>my aspirations to f/6.0, which may still be a bit ambitious for a first
>mirror. Looking at the coma, and difficulty of figuring a fast mirror, it
>hardly seems worth the FOV or slightly enhanced portability. I was thinking
>I wanted "rich-field" performance of the 4.5, but with the coma at field
>edges that this would have, the extra FOV doesn't, now, seem to me to be
>worth the bother. I need to commit to a f/ratio before continuing with the
>mirror, so here is my proposed design, for the group to throw rocks at:
>
>primary 8" , f/6
>diagonal: 1 7/8" minor axis (~5% obstruction)
>tube: Plywood, octagonal, 11" minimum interior dimension
> interior mounted focuser.
>
>other details "To Be Determined".
>
>I will glady pay 2 cents (less 1/2 buck shipping and handling!) for your
>comments. But please don't delay, as I hope to finish rough grinding this
>weekend.
>
>Enough for now...Clear skies,
>
>Kevin
>
>
Regards,
Mel Bartels
mailto:mbartels@efn.org
http://www.efn.org/~mbartels