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Re: (ATM) Coma and Telescope Design
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- Subject: Re: (ATM) Coma and Telescope Design
- From: Chuck Grant <grant@aretha.llnl.gov>
- Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 21:03:43 -0700
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> (unless I get a bigger trunk.) Chuck's comment "Not with a 20%
> obstruction diagonal and NGF-3 focuser" with respect to my desire to
> achieve 70% illumnination of an approximately 1.4 degree true field
> has me a bit worried that I am not using the NEWT/Vignette/Diagonal
> software correctly. I'm figuring on a 9.5" inside diameter tube
> that is .25" thick with a .25" velvet lining for controlling light
> reflection (barring input that says I need additional/different
> baffels). I think I can put the focal plane 2" above the tube with
> the 2" diameter JMI focuser and still have a little in travel (no
> coma corrector to worry about anymore.) Am I incorrect here? With
> NEWT I get a 1.25 degree diameter field with 75% illumination with a
> 1.6" diagonal, and with Vignette I get a 1.4 degree diameter field
> with 70% illumination. Diagonal gives results that are consistent
> with these. I'm working with a pupil diameter of 6mm which would
> allow me to get one of the 25-35 mm eyepieces with wide (~68 degree)
> apparent fields. Any thoughts, or was Chuck referring to the
> infeasability of putting the heavy 14mm UWA on the focuser with the
> (now unneeded) coma corrector? Or am I incorrect on the height of
> the racked in JMI focuser above the tube? I thought I had read it
> was about 1.5" - 1.75".
>
You may have trouble with tube currents with only 0.5" between
the edge of the mirror and the velvet lining. I would suggest at
least 1.5 inch. With a 52" tube with a 9" id. (incuding the velvet)
and 1.25 degree field of view, you are already vignetting
against the end of the tube.
avaliable space = ( 9" id - 8" mirror ) / 2 = 0.5 on each side.
expansion of light cone = 52" tube * sin ( 1.25 field / 2 )
= 0.567" on each side.
I did this back of the envelope calculation from first
principles. You are welcome to check my math. I ignore
the central obstruction, which would only make the calculated
70% illuminated field smaller if considered.
You are placing the image plane 7" from the optical axis.
The focal length is 52" and we are at f/6.5
The minor axis of the diagonal will be 1.6" (20% of 8")
A point on the image plane receives light from an elipise on the
diagonal with a minor axis of 7" / 6.5 = 1.077"
So you have ( 1.6" - 1.077" ) / 2 = 0.2615" on both sides with
which to play for full illumination.
0.2615" at the diagonal (52 - 7 inches from the primary) gives
2 * arcsin ( 0.2615 / (52 - 7) ) = 0.666 degrees, so you have a
fully illuminated field of 0.666 degrees.
I figure that when the 1.077" circle is offset from the center of
the 1.6" circle by about (mumble, algebra, mumble...) 0.3879" you
get 70% coverage. Ok so this step is a little hard to check.
Check your CRC Standard Mathematical Tables for the formulae for
the area of a sector of a circle.
Area = area(1.077"circle) - area(sector of 1.077circle)
+ area(sector of 1.6"circle)
2 * arcsin ( 0.3879 / ( 52 - 7 ) ) = 0.988 degrees
So did I make a mistake here somewhere?
Chuck