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Re: [ATM] figure stroke ten inch



Mike,

I've found your full size lap figuring page to be very helpful. You
should consider writing up a sub-diameter page with a figuring walk
through that is similar to your full size example. I'd also be
interested in how to pick the tool diameter.

-Anthony

Round Rock TX

> -----Original Message-----
> From: atm-bounces@atmlist.net 
> [mailto:atm-bounces@atmlist.net] On Behalf Of Tom Fredrickson
> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 9:13 PM
> To: atm@atmlist.net
> Subject: Re: [ATM] figure stroke ten inch
> 
> On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 17:30:16 -0500
> Mike Lockwood <melockwo@uiuc.edu> wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Tom Fredrickson wrote:
> > > I'm working on a 10 inch mirror full size lap. I turned 
> the edge and 
> > > went to work with short coc strokes to clean it up. Now I need to 
> > > add correction to the edge. I have been working the edge 
> and it is 
> > > going the wrong way. I feel I need to work the center and make it 
> > > deeper.
> > 
> > As you can tell from the widely varying advice you've 
> received on the 
> > list, there are many ways to make a mirror.  Allow me to 
> submit my two 
> > cents worth......
> > 
> > A 10" F/5 should be able to be figured with a full-size lap if the 
> > pitch is soft enough.  If the pitch is not soft enough, you 
> will get 
> > to a point where the mirror just won't correct anymore, and if you 
> > force it, bad things may happen.
> > 
> > The pitch can be made softer by warming it or working in a warmer 
> > room.  This should get you to full correction.
> > 
> > I'm not sure if you've read my full-size lap figuring page, 
> so here's 
> > a link - hope it helps:
> > 
> http://bi-staff.beckman.uiuc.edu/~melockwo/mirror_making/full_lap/full
> > _lap.html
> > 
> > What I say there will also help you judge the hardness of 
> your pitch, 
> > which is key in this situation.
> > 
> > If you have made other mirrors and are ready to try 
> subdiameter laps, 
> > this mirror would be a good one to start learning on.  I 
> would use a 
> > 6" lap, personally.
> > 
> > 	Mike Lockwood
> > 
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> 
> Mike,
> 
> I agree with your point about pitch hardness. I find my 
> working temperature needs to be about 80 - 85 degrees. my 
> mirror is 1 1/4 inch thick pyrex. How long should I let it 
> stand in a water bath? I let it set for 30 minuets and found 
> the edge would be warmer the the center I think this caused 
> me some problems.
> 
> what I don't like about warming the mirror is testing the 
> mirror is not as reliable. I have read your web page and find 
> it helpful. I had this mirror at 1/10 wave but the edge was 
> turned down. I had to mask off 3/8 inch all around to get 
> acceptable results when star testing.
> 
> Also had a figure better then 1/4 wave many times but the 
> edge seems to always be high. That is why I turned the edge 
> with a locolized stroke to reduce the edge.
> 
> Thanks for your help.
> 
> -- Tom
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