[ATM] There seems to be a reoccurring motif among this list.

[Thomas A Simmons <tasimmons@raytheon.com>]

Hi Jack

If you will allow, may I also share my experience and perceptions,
especially in light of your post?

While it is true that this list, as with any large group, will from
time to time engage in "food fights", this list also encourages those
who don't have the experience and knowledge that you may hold. Put another
way, the average output of this list represents the average input of the
contributors. While a particular post today might not encourage a majority
of the list following that particular topic today, these posts are archived
and just might be the impetus someone needs in the future.

So while you have every right to take your pursuit to the next level. I
wonder, did you give back anything? A check on your email addy shows
a smattering of recent emails over the last 10 years, but maybe you had
another address.

Tom
Tucson, AZ

Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 10:37:50 -0600
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             I've snipped 2 recent comments (below and in thread context)
that
describe my experience and perceptions about the ATM list. Actually I
believe it to be cultural (perhaps testosterone) in nature because, ATM's
have always done things on the simple and cheap. I am by no means attacking
anyone here, I'm simply stating my and apparently others experiences.

             However, there those of us that are taking it to the next
level. For
example; I'm working on a design for a 2 meter D/t=10 f/8 RC with adaptive
optics, but this is probably the first time and last you'll hear of it.

             There are people on this list with an incredible amount of
experience and knowledge that would be of immense use to me and others.
However, it's not worth the time and adrenaline to start up a discussion to
find those people.

             How are ATM's (or groups of ATM's) like myself who want to
build on
a large scale and have the capability to spend the necessary monies to do
it, going to relate with those who won't or can't. I'm not looking down my
nose at anyone, as some of the most ingenious solutions are made by those
just trying to get the job done anyway they can. I can't wait to see the
tin
can version of adaptive optics. :)

             I'll offer no solutions to my perceptions, but perhaps the
group
consciousness as a whole could.

Thanks for your time.

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