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Re: ATM 8" f3.8 -- Worthy project?




At 14:44 10/25/2000 -0700, Dwight Elvey wrote:

>"Matt Terry" <mterry@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>
> >      A couple of quick questions:  How  many folks have made sub f/4
> > smallish mirrors?

I've made a 10"f/2.6 RC cass primary, surface RMS ~ 18 nm (barely 
passable); it ain't easy, but possible.  Mirrors this fast and hyperbolic 
generally can't be figured with full-size pitch laps; I went with HCF strips.

>  If you are going to use a Foucault type tester, it is
>generally accepted to use a wire tester rather than a knife
>edge ( although it is still not determined if the readings
>that you get are in fact better). My feeling is that it
>is still the best method for fast mirrors...

Lots of people on this list use the wire test.  The rule of thumb is that 
Foucault starts to fail faster than f/4 - maybe f/3.8 is close enough to 
give it a try.

>  In the wire test, you normally use a pin hole source
>and a wire for the detector. The wire tends to make a ring
>at the RoC for that zone. On fast mirrors, this ring is
>quite distinct. The disadvantages are that you need a
>bright point source as small or smaller than the wire
>and like I said, it hasn't been shown by any of the diffraction
>experts on this list as to the validity of using the center
>of the wires shadow as the measurement point ( although
>I'd think it was vary close to it ).

If you have a really small source, diffraction theory says there's a bright 
line at the center of the wire shadow (like Poisson's famous bright spot at 
the center of a circular shadow).  First glance says that's where to make 
the zone measurement.  Sometime in the - near? distant? - future a sixtests 
update will come out which will estimate the test accuracy in terms of the 
number of zones, measurement accuracy, etc.



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