Re: [ATM] ATM Pinning

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>   1. Re: Newport glass works (Dominic-Luc Webb)
>   2. Re: Inventor of Mangin mirror dies? (William Lee)
>   3. Re: Inventor of Mangin mirror dies? (Bevan Harris)
>   4. Re: Newport glass works (GARY FUCHS)
>   5. Re: Newport glass works (Francis J. O'Reilly)
>   6. Re: Masking Tape Goo (was Varathane) (Donald Good)
>   7. Re: Masking Tape Goo (was Varathane) (James Crombie)
>   8. Re: Masking Tape Goo (was Varathane) (Thomas Janstrom)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 08:21:52 +0100 (MET)
> From: Dominic-Luc Webb <dlwebb@canit.se>
> Subject: Re: [ATM] Newport glass works
> To: William Marriott <bmarriott@pacbell.net>
> Cc: atm@atmlist.net
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> I avoid companies with this type of practice. It is my experience
> that businesses that decide to go on the Internet but never check
> their internet order and email ultimate go out of business
> because they are forwarding their customers to a non-existent
> mechanism for purchasing.
>
> Dominic
>
>
> On Wed, 21 Nov 2007, William Marriott wrote:
>
>> re: Newport Glass
>>
>> I talked to Newport a couple of days ago,  and
>> received a quote two days later.
>>
>> I have had mixed results with email, but, they are
>> still around...
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> Guitars, Stars, and Volvo Cars.
>> Life is Good!
>> http://HagstromWorld.com
>> http://StarlightOptical.com
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 05:46:04 -0500
> From: William Lee <wjl12@comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [ATM] Inventor of Mangin mirror dies?
> To: Guy Brandenburg <gfbrandenburg@yahoo.com>
> Cc: atm@atmlist.net
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> In "Reflecting Telescope Optics 1" by R.N. Wilson, p. 210:  "It was
> first proposed by Mangin in 1876 for systems projecting light beams
> (searchlights)." This passage references a publication by A. Mangin,
> "Memorial de l'officier du genie", 1876, 25.(2)10, pp. 211-289.
>
> On Nov 21, 2007, at 7:12 PM, Guy Brandenburg wrote:
>
>> I can't find the French military officer who invented it, but those
>> searchlights were in use in the late 1800's. The device features
>> prominently in the book "Two Moons" which takes place in the 18??s
>> when Asaph Hall was discovering Deimos and Phobos.
>> So, unless that Mangin was blessed with Methusalah-like longevity,
>> he probably died at LEAST 50 years ago.
>> There are a number of other Mangins mentioned in the French version
>> of Wikipedia.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 19:55:43 +0800
> From: "Bevan Harris" <ngc2070@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [ATM] Inventor of Mangin mirror dies?
> To: atm@atmlist.net
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> Thank you all.
>
> It quite evident that the Mr Mangini, late of Perth, is not the
> originator of the Mangin mirror.  I've shared this news with the lady
> at work, and she is going to try to gather more information from one
> of his sons.
>
> I won't say "watch this space", but if I find out something
> worthwhile, I'll let you know.  It will be interesting to find out
> where/how the confusion has arisen.
>
> Cheers
> Bevan
>
> On Nov 22, 2007 6:46 PM, William Lee <wjl12@comcast.net> wrote:
>> In "Reflecting Telescope Optics 1" by R.N. Wilson, p. 210:  "It was
>> first proposed by Mangin in 1876 for systems projecting light beams
>> (searchlights)." This passage references a publication by A. Mangin,
>> "Memorial de l'officier du genie", 1876, 25.(2)10, pp. 211-289.
>>
>>
>> On Nov 21, 2007, at 7:12 PM, Guy Brandenburg wrote:
>>
>> > I can't find the French military officer who invented it, but those
>> > searchlights were in use in the late 1800's. The device features
>> > prominently in the book "Two Moons" which takes place in the 18??s
>> > when Asaph Hall was discovering Deimos and Phobos.
>> > So, unless that Mangin was blessed with Methusalah-like longevity,
>> > he probably died at LEAST 50 years ago.
>> > There are a number of other Mangins mentioned in the French version
>> > of Wikipedia.
>>
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 10:47:39 -0500 (EST)
> From: GARY FUCHS <gary@rcn.com>
> Subject: Re: [ATM] Newport glass works
> Cc: atm@atmlist.net
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> A few years ago I read that it was best to phone Newport for orders and 
> also good to be prepared: know what you want and specify it correctly. I 
> called and received a catalog in a reasonable time. I studied the catalog 
> and have ordered from them twice - both very small glass, for obviously 
> amateur use, and both have arrived promptly.
>
> I'll bet that they just don't have the staff to handle the email properly 
> and can't justify the expense of hiring someone additional for what is 
> likely a very small percentage of their orders - but still want to 
> maintain an internet accessibility for say, overseas inquiries from 
> amateurs that can't afford the call or would need to call at 3AM local 
> time.
>
> Gary Fuchs
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:36:51 -0500
> From: "Francis J. O'Reilly" <foreilly@verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [ATM] Newport glass works
> To: "Dominic-Luc Webb" <dlwebb@canit.se>, "William Marriott"
> <bmarriott@pacbell.net>
> Cc: atm@atmlist.net
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> Dominic,
>
> Fear not! Newport Glass is a fairly substantial company that has been 
> around
> for years. I believe that they manufacture their own glass and they
> certainly are not a "fly by night" company. Check their web site, It is
> impressive.
>
> I have placed several orders with them. When they didn't have the glass I
> needed in stock, such as two seven inch Pyrex blanks, they cast them for 
> me
> and I had them within ten days of my order.
>
> Best regards this Thanksgiving!
>
> Francis J. O'Reilly
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dominic-Luc Webb" <dlwebb@canit.se>
> To: "William Marriott" <bmarriott@pacbell.net>
> Cc: <atm@atmlist.net>
> Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 2:21 AM
> Subject: Re: [ATM] Newport glass works
>
>
>>
>> I avoid companies with this type of practice. It is my experience
>> that businesses that decide to go on the Internet but never check
>> their internet order and email ultimate go out of business
>> because they are forwarding their customers to a non-existent
>> mechanism for purchasing.
>>
>> Dominic
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 21 Nov 2007, William Marriott wrote:
>>
>>> re: Newport Glass
>>>
>>> I talked to Newport a couple of days ago,  and
>>> received a quote two days later.
>>>
>>> I have had mixed results with email, but, they are
>>> still around...
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>> Guitars, Stars, and Volvo Cars.
>>> Life is Good!
>>> http://HagstromWorld.com
>>> http://StarlightOptical.com
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> ATM mailing list http://www.atmlist.net/
>>>
>>
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 15:14:08 -0600
> From: "Donald Good" <donald.good@comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [ATM] Masking Tape Goo (was Varathane)
> To: "'Charles Mitchard'" <charlesmitchard@iinet.net.au>,
> <atm@atmlist.net>
> Message-ID: <000901c82d4c$9f69e1e0$6400a8c0@gct20>
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> What is "pinning"?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: atm-bounces@atmlist.net [mailto:atm-bounces@atmlist.net] On Behalf 
> Of
> Charles Mitchard
> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 2:48 AM
> To: atm@atmlist.net
> Subject: Re: [ATM] Masking Tape Goo (was Varathane)
>
> Actually I've found one of the best uses for wd40 and its variants. Its
> excellent for the prevention of pinning when filing aluminium.
> I've tried all the tips and tricks given in various texts and wd40 is 
> hands
> down the best.
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 17:39:05 -0500
> From: James Crombie <jamescrombie@jamescrombie.com>
> Subject: Re: [ATM] Masking Tape Goo (was Varathane)
> To: atm@atmlist.net
> Message-ID: <47460509.1070209@jamescrombie.com>
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> Donald
>   I assume he is referring to clogging the file with the metal dust
> from filing.  It compacts and fills the gullets of the teeth of the
> file. It can also score the material you are filing if for example you
> clog the file with steel and then file a piece of aluminum or brass.
>   I like Nickelson and Grobet files. Both are well made and work well.
>  The best file handles I have found are from Grobet, nice solid platic
> handles with a screw on metal insert, reusable and inexpensive.  see
> http://www.deltaonelapidary.com/shop.php?category=75
> A good file card is a must as well, keeping the file clean will help it
> cut faster and easier.
>

You want to see blank stares of bovine intensity, just walk into a hardware 
store and ask for a "file card".  The reply, if you get one at all, is 
likely to be "A whuuut?"
But, in the spirit of self-flagellation (it saves the rest of you the 
trouble), I must admit I had never heard the term "pinning" either.

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