Correcting an overcorrected mirror.

Eason, Dale (deason@msmsmtp.StPaul.NCR.COM)
Tue, 07 Mar 95 15:27:00 CST

I was given a homemade 8" Newtonian of about 57 inch focal length. It was made over 20 years ago and the mirror was made by persons unknown. Both the main mirror and the secondary need recoating. The mirror is Pyrex about 2" thick.

Just for the experience I made the Foucalult tester as described by Richard Berry and tested the mirror. I tested using 5 zones. The Radius of curvature is 114 inches. The mirror is overcorrected. It is within 1/4 wave tolerance as a 6 inch mirror but the outer zones are off quite a bit.

Here are my measurements:

1/4 1/4 Zone Wave wave Measured Zone Radius Dmin Dmax Delta R 1 1.2 -.04 .04 -.01 2 2.2 .0 .04 .005 3 2.8 .01 .05 .03 4 3.6 .035 .06 .08 outside tolerance 5 3.7 .05 .07 .15 outside tolerance

Zone radius is the radius of the center of the zone. Dmin Dmax is the delta Radius of curvature tolerance for 1/4 wave.

So now what are my options? 1. I could mask the mirror down to a 6" but I already have a 5" Celestron Comet Catcher. I don't need a big scope with a small aperture.

2. Can I correct the mirror without the original tool? I have never made a mirror but have read a lot about it. I'm handy with my hands and do a lot of wood and metal working. I have a home shop where I could do it. How do I make a tool to do this? Is it worth it?

3. Maybe the mirror is not all that bad so I should just have it recoated and use it the way it. I used it as is last summer. I live in a suburb of St. Paul, Mn. and do my viewing from my back yard. The seeing is not very good. I have never seen more than the two brightest star of the little dipper with my naked eyes. So I think the magnitude limit is about 3.5. I am a rank beginner so there are a lot of objects that I can capture that are interesting to me. My goal is to log as many of the Messier (sp?) objects as I can from my back yard. I have about 10 so far.

4. Warp the mirror to the proper correction by pushing on the center of the back when it is mounted. I tried it on the bench with the tester and I got the mirror into 1/4 tolerance. I don't know what other distortion I caused. I saw and article in S&T about doing that to a spherical mirror by epoxying a bolt to the center of the mirror and supporting it all around the edge. Each time the scope was setup for use the mirror was adjusted using a Ronchi star test. The bolt pulled the mirror into a parabolic shape. I would need to do the opposite. That is push it into shape. I wonder if pushing it against only 3 mirror clips would cause other distortion. Does anyone have an opinion? Perhaps I could devise some sort of ring that would rest against the front perimeter of the mirror.

Thanks for any advice.

Dale Eason eason@stpaul.ncr.com