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Re: ATM 100% illumination and secondary sizing



David,
 
I have a 12.5" f/5 scope with similar dimensions. I use a 14" diameter "tube", a 2" low profile focuser (about 1-3/4" above inside surface of tube), and about 1/2" -3/4" back focus. A 2.14" diagonal gives me about 0.3" fully illuminated field. The 2.6" about 0.8" fully illuminated field. Either one of these will fully illuminate the field at 100X or above. This is also where I do most of my viewing. Below this magnification, the intensity will drop off toward the edge of the field. Of course, the intensity will drop off less with the larger diagonal. However, even at 50X (the lowest I would recommend with a 12.5" f/5) the intensity at the edge with my 2.14" is only about 70%. Some would say that you can't see the difference between 70% vs. the 85% edge illumination with the 2.60". In practice, I have both diagonals for my dob. Can I see the difference? If I could compare them side by side, I might. But the differences in edge illumination and planetary performance aren't large enough to for me to see between sessions when I swap diagonals. I leave the 2.6" in mostly out of personal biases. I do more deep sky work than planetary viewing. But the planetary views with the 2.6" are very impressive. Also, the diagonal offset isn't as critical with the larger diagonal.
 
With regard to your numbers, I would not go with a design where the center 0.25" isn't fully illuminated.
 
Albert
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Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 5:30 PM
Subject: ATM 100% illumination and secondary sizing

I'm wanting to know a bit more detail about secondary mirror sizing, 100% illumination area and what difference it all really makes.
 
I'm using the program Newt. I'm building a 12.5" F5 telescope I've chosen about 2" as my focuser plus 1" free height in focuser measurments, 14.5" ID for my upper tube so as to be able to use it as a richfeild telescope.  I'm only doing visual work, not photography.
 
Punching these numbers into Newt
 
2.6" secondary gives a 0.6" 100% illuminated feild.
but with a 21% obstruction..
 
2.14 secondary gives an almost 0" 100% illuminated feild.
with a 17% obstruction.
 
What real visable difference would these two different configurations actually give me?
Which way should I leap?
 
Thanks from
David Moorhouse
Auckland
New Zealand