Re: [ATM] rutten & van venrooij - proper pronunciation

["Jan van gastel" <jhm.vangastel@wanadoo.nl>]

The v sounds like 'v' when placed after words ending, for instance, on 'n'
or 'm', 'a', like in my name, Jan van.... They sound like 'f' when places,
for instance, after a 'k' or 's', 'd', like in  Mark van.....Ed van, etc.

Jan
http://home.wanadoo.nl/jhm.vangastel/Astronomy/



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Guy Brandenburg" <gfbrandenburg@yahoo.com>
To: "Nils Olof Carlin" <nilsolof.carlin@telia.com>
Cc: <atm@atmlist.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 1:41 AM
Subject: Re: [ATM] rutten & van venrooij - proper pronunciation


> I think I stand corrected; the website I got either gave bad advice or the
folks who read for it have a different Dutch accent. Or else, I just made a
mistake.
> I found a composer's name on the website you gave that was very similar:
Marc van Rooij
> It sounded like Mark Fahn Roey, with trilled r's.
> Sometimes, however, the v's do sound like v's; other tiems, they seem to
sound like F's. I donno when you do which.
>
> Guy
>
> Nils Olof Carlin <nilsolof.carlin@telia.com> wrote: Not that I have any
knowledge of Dutch (single or double) at all, but the
> alleged pronounciation of "v" seemed a bit surprising to me.
>
> You might check Radio Netherlands' pronounciation of musicians' names:
> http://www2.rnw.nl/mu/en/behind/pronunciations/
>
> Naturally, you won't find Martin van Venrooij or Harrie Rutten there, but
> checking for instance
> Rooij, Marc van, or Verdonk, Martin, or Vlijmen, Jan van, or Ruppe,
> Christiaan Friedrich, you might have a basis for interpolation.
>
> BTW, you can also check Huygens, Constantijn (+Ruppe above) to get an idea
> of the pronounciation of one of the greatest ATMs ever....
>
> Nils Olof
>
> > If you've ever wondered how on earth they actually pronounce "Rutten &
van
> > Venrooij", you can look here:
> >
> > http://www.math.nyu.edu/~wendlc/pronunciation/Dutch.html
> >
> > I think it sounds like "Rue - ten en van ven roy"
>
>
>
>
>
> Guy  Brandenburg
> Washington, DC
> My home page:
> http://home.earthlink.net/~gfbranden/GFB_Home_Page.html
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