Re: [ATM] over&under correction. IS: ATMLIST responseprotocol

[Mark Holm <mdholm@telerama.com>]

> THERE IS A SYSTEM TO ALL OF THIS STUFF!!!  Please follow the system as it
> has been in place since shortly after ARPNRT has been in existance.
> There realy is a structure system that is available to the posters to
> provide a path of where the conversations have been and who (as well as
> where) the conversations have branched off.  USE IT!

Not everybody has been online since ARPANET days.  Here is an example of 
how to set up a GUI email client to show threading.

1. If you are receiving the digest version of the list, go to 
www.atmlist.net and change your options to get individual messages.

2. Make a folder in your email program just for atm list messages.  It 
should look something like

http://www.atmlist.net/contrib/mdholm-at-telerama-dot-com/folders.jpg

You probably make a new folder by clicking or right clicking on the root 
folder.  In my case, the root folder is mdholm@telerama.com

Then you need a message filter.  In Thunderbird, you get them from the 
Tools menu.

My atm list filter looks like
http://www.atmlist.net/contrib/mdholm-at-telerama-dot-com/atm_filter.jpg

This will cause list messages to go into the folder you specify rather 
than just into the inbox.

Next, you need to set the folder view so that the messages appear 
grouped by thread.  In Thunderbird, this is on the View menu.

It looks like

http://www.atmlist.net/contrib/mdholm-at-telerama-dot-com/view-menu.jpg

This sorts threads by date, and groups subsequent messages under a 
thread in a tree structure so you can see who replied to what.  It looks 
like

http://www.atmlist.net/contrib/mdholm-at-telerama-dot-com/thread_view.jpg

Now, when you want to reply to a message, either right click on it, or 
open it and click the Reply or Reply to All buttons on your tool bar. 
In Thunderbird, the Reply button sends a message just to the message 
author. The Reply to All button sends to the author and the list.  I 
usually erase the author's address since he will get one courtesy of 
being a list member.  He doesn't need two copies.

Your email program will, or should, automatically send the correct 
message id information for your message to be correctly threaded with 
related messages.  This only happens when you use the Reply or Reply to 
All feature.  If you Use the Write or Compose buttons to begin a new 
message, it won't get the id of the previous message added as a 
reference, so threading won't work properly.

If you receive the digest version, message id's are listed with each 
message, but many email programs do not give a good way to get that 
information into the correct place in the reply message's headers.  It 
isn't sufficient for it to appear in the message body.  That is why you 
need to be receiving individual messages.

These instructions reference Thunderbird (a program I am quite pleased 
with by the way).  MS Outlook and Outlook Express have similar features. 
  You may have to poke around the menu's a bit to find them.

-- 
Mark Holm
mdholm@telerama.com

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