Re: [ATM] Microwaves and craziness

["Thomas Janstrom" <thomas@moiler.com>]

I have (the water memory thing) and the "best" result they got was 45%! i.e.
you had a better chance of getting it right by flipping a coin.

I to have heard about the microwaved water assertions, but I just can't see
how this could make any difference, H2O is H2O!!! Now for organic molecules
I can see why something might happen, but I haven't seen any proof of this
yet....

Cheers, Thomas.

-----Original Message-----
From: atm-bounces@atmlist.net [mailto:atm-bounces@atmlist.net] On Behalf Of
James Crombie
Sent: Thursday, 10 January 2008 8:31 AM
To: atm@atmlist.net
Subject: Re: [ATM] Microwaves and craziness

Does he also subscribe to the claims of homeopathy that water retains 
the memory of particles once disolved in it ?? :-)  I would like to see 
a double blind test of that.

kreig wrote:

> Part of my job requires me to attend health classes.
> 
> We had a presentation on healthy lifestyles by a local respected 
> Chiropractor. One thing he mentioned is our lack of understanding of 
> microwaves in use in our homes. His claim was plants watered with
microwaved 
> water would die, while water heated on a standard stove top would be just 
> fine. Of course the water was allowed to cool back to room temperature 
> before the plants were watered.
> 
> Crazyness!!!!!
> 
> Kreig
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dale Eason" <atmpob@yahoo.com>
> To: <atm@atmlist.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 11:02 AM
> Subject: Re: [ATM] Microwave heating of glass
> 
> 
> 
>>So what is your plan to do about annealing?  You will
>>not be able to use the microwave for that.  Once the
>>glass is no longer hot enough to be a microwave
>>receptor then the microwave will not work but the
>>glass will still need to be annealed.
>>
>>I think standard annealing takes many days of slowly
>>reducing the temperature.
>>
>>Dale Eason
>>
>>--- Ian Williams <i.r.williams@bristol.ac.uk> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>So, how does this sound for the next draft of the
>>>microwave powered
>>>glass furnace method?:
>>>
>>>Assumptions:
>>>1) That fire-brick is a very poor absorber of
>>>microwave radiation.  If
>>>anyone here can test this by trying to heat a mug of
>>>water enclosed in
>>>fire-bricks I would be very grateful.
>>>2) That plaster of paris/Alumina is also a poor
>>>absorber of microwaves
>>>and is suitable for making a refractory mould for
>>>glass.
>>>3) Suitable lab-safety is followed at all times.
>>>
>>>Method (draft 2):
>>>* Purchase/reclaim a microwave oven with 'microwave
>>>stirrer' type of
>>>magnetron, fire-bricks, glass of desired quality,
>>>several SiC sharpening
>>>blocks, and Plaster of Paris/Alumina to make a
>>>mould.
>>>* Make a block of plaster of paris/alumina of
>>>dimensions 10"x10"x5" with
>>>a cylindrical depression in the top surface, of
>>>diameter ~8" and depth 2".
>>>* Machine fire-bricks to make an enclosure that
>>>completely fills the
>>>space of microwave leaving enough room inside for
>>>the mould and SiC
>>>blocks.   Don't forget to fire-brick line the base
>>>of the microwave
>>>underneath the mould.
>>>* Break up required amount of glass into pieces of
>>>size ???? cm^3.
>>>* Place microwave where, if it catches fire, the
>>>fire won't spread. e.g.
>>>outside.
>>>*  Place fire-bricks, mould, broken glass and SiC
>>>blocks into said
>>>microwave.  The SiC blocks could be:
>>>    a) all around the mould, thus absorbing all the
>>>microwaves, or,
>>>    b) only on the sides of the mould away from the
>>>magnetron, thus
>>>allowing the glass to absorb microwaves directly
>>>too.
>>>* Set timer to somewhere around 15 minutes, press go
>>>and stand well back.
>>>
>>>If you can spare some more criticism of these ideas,
>>>I would appreciate
>>>your time.
>>>
>>>Thanks again,
>>>Ian
>>>
>>>
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