I bought one today at Walmart for $49.99. They are brand new with sturdy tripod and backpack carrying case. Includes 3 eyepieces 25 , 12.5, & 4mm with 1.25 barrels. This is a close-out sale and they won't last long. Gil Gagne Port Orange, FL (in the deep freeze) _______________________________________________ ATM mailing list http://www.atmlist.net/