Hi Richard, Friday, January 26, 2007, 6:12:20 AM, you wrote: RFLRS> my versions of ATMOS and OSLO do not have the glass N-SF11. That's surprising, it always was a fairly common flint, and it's still shown as Preferred by Schott. Not exactly dishwasher safe though :) -- Best regards, Richard in the UK _______________________________________________ ATM mailing list http://www.atmlist.net/