helluva dew problem as well! jtm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Mayenschein" <mayen1@mwt.net> To: "Ross Sackett" <rsackett00@yahoo.com>; <atm@shore.net> Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 4:42 PM Subject: Re: ATM: Ice Mirrors IF IT wasn't for the sublimanation(sp?) it would be fun to try. Joe