you can disregard the e mail I sent earlier the center is coming down I am with in .004 after 1 1/2 title tool #120 grit It looks like I have a small flat edge 1/8 to 1/4 inch in from mirror edge the tile tool is not touching it at this time what do you recommend. Horace _______________________________________________ ATM mailing list http://www.atmlist.net/