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FW: ATM New measurements of Coef of friction






> -----Original Message-----
> From: Arjan te Marvelde (ELN) 
> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 2:10 PM
> To: 'rguinamard@infonie.fr'
> Subject: ATM New measurements of Coef of friction
> 
> 
> Hi Raphael,
> 
> I like it that you question the prevailing common 
> understanding of Teflon and Ebony star being the friction 
> walhalla. There will be more material combinations possible 
> and also specific situations that may do as well with them.
> 
> Still i have questions about your measurements:
> -Q- You measure a dependency of kinetic COF from the applied 
> load which does not comply with friction theory. Within 
> limits the COF is a constant for a combination of materials, 
> and should be independent of load. The friction force is 
> proportional to the normal force on the surface, by the 
> kinetic COF. Is there any chance that the ^0.17 is a 
> measurement artifact?
> -Q- How can you measure a static COF that is smaller than the 
> kinetic COF?
> 
> And also some remarks:
> Applying friction theory, increasing the teflon surface above 
> a certain threshold does not help to get a lower friction force. 
> The hreshold is determined by the amount of deformation in 
> the teflon. So the small pebbles in Ebony star in fact 
> decrease the effective contact area, and may therefore 
> increase the friction force because small dents are pushed in 
> the teflon. Here maybe also the teflon thickness and 
> underlying surface are important.
> 
> Furthermore, since the friction force is proportional to the 
> normal force on the plane of friction only, increasing the 
> angle between teflon pads will increase friction.
> 
> The force you experience when pushing the telescope equals 
> the total friction force divided by the ratio of trunnion 
> radius and pushing point radius. So the smaller your 
> trunnion, the lower the experienced force. But of course, 
> this force is also experienced by the various eyepieces and 
> the wind...
> 
>   
> For limits of the friction model see:
> http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/frict3.html#ass
> or for friction theory in general:
> http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/frict.html#fri
> 
> I hope that this all makes sense, and adds to understanding 
> in general,
>  ... Arjan te Marvelde 
>