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ATM Mirror box and rocker box height issues



Dear All,
 
I would really appreciate some advice on where my current scope design seems to be going astray. The height of my mirror box (and consequently the rocker box) seems a little on the high side. The scope I am constructing is virtually straight out of Kriege and Berry's (excellent) book.
 
 
Specs of the scope which is are as follows:
    Mirror Diameter:       16"
    Focal Ratio:             F4.5
    Mirror Weight:          20 pounds
    Secondary Mirror     3.1"
 
The secondary cage is virtually exactly per the above book (although approx 0.5" larger I.D. @17.5") and weighs (by my calculations) 12 pounds. Height of the secondary cage is by the book at say 11".  The spider and secondary holder are standard Novak units. Plywood is Finnish Birch @ 15mm thick. I also made a totally standard 27pt Kriege mirror cell with heavy walled 1" tube and 1.25" wide 0.25" thick side rails (am aware that this is overkill and I could theoretically get away with 3 - 6 pts :-))
 
Notably heavy items include supposedly standard issue items for obsession like the following:
    ngcdx3 focuser                                 1 lb
    allowance for eyepieces                     1.5lb
    Obsession upper cage pole clamps     1.79lbs (direct from Obsession - pretty meaty methinks...)
 
The mirror box is made of 18mm (say 3/4") Finnish birch (guessing about 13 - 15 ply) - I am supposing this is similar to FinnPly (although it doesn't actually go by that name in Australia).
 
I calculate the mirror box will need to be 18" high which is at least two inches higher that the above book suggests.
 
Interestingly, I did a few 'what-ifs' with the torque calculations and determined that if my mirror was 2" thick @ f5.0 (mirror 33lbs per Nova optics - with more torque at the secondary cage as an offset) Unlike my current 1.37" f4.5 (20 lbs) the mirror box would still need to be about 18 inches. I 3d modelled the scope and determined that the measurement from the ground to the top of the mirror box (excluding bearings) is 23.5" (Compare this with an 18" f4.5 obsession per the Obsession website at only 21" for the same dimensions.) I therefore extrapolate that the bottom half of my telescope is approximately 3.5" too high???.....
 
Can anybody shed any light on the above - Given the relatively standard 'Obsessionesque' components and design of the above scope can anyone work out how it is that Obsessions manage to keep their rocker boxes so low whilst mine seems disproportionately high.
 
Many Thanks
 
Andrew Hincks