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Re: ATM alternative grinding materials



Watch out!  Cerium oxide might look to international idiot Interpol authoritarian thugs like heroin, cocaine, or anthrax!  Some cerium oxide may be slightly radioactive, and if the authorities discover that, we and our friend are in a mell of a hess.  Your best bet is to include some REAL dope to bribe the police.
 
. . . Richard
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 7:48 AM
Subject: RE: ATM alternative grinding materials

Dennis:
    A few years ago we hosted a student from Tashkent for 1-year of secondary school study here in the US.  A few days ago he telephoned us that he is again in the US, visiting. Presuming that I can contact him again while he is here, that I can get some polishing materials to him, and that he would not have difficulty getting it through airport security and customs, he may be able to hand-carry some cerium oxide to you.
 
Richard Klappal
 
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-atm@shore.net [mailto:owner-atm@shore.net]On Behalf Of Dennis Nikitin
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2001 11:58
To: atm@shore.net
Subject: ATM alternative grinding materials

Hi All,
This is the first time I'm posting message to the list. And first of all I would like to greet all of you. It's really so great when people share their hardly won experience following the real ATM spirit.
 
In 1991 I was to pause my ATM practice due to specific economic and social conditions (poverty and total disorder) in my country and collapse of Soviet Union.  I'm russian and I live in Tashkent/ Uzbekistan but still I call this country Russia mostly because of my mind's inertia. Nowadays things are going beter, so good that I decided to go on with telescope making. The first surprise is that there are no abrasive vendors left on the local market. Briefly speaking I can not find even a simplest emery.
 
I have experimented with the ordinary sand and found out that this kind of material is absolutely insufficiend for glass grinding. It breaks down after a couple of strokes and seems to do very poor work on a glass. My next  idea is to use silica. As I remember from the university mineralogy course - silica is 1.4 times softer than emery, and 2 times softer than aluminium oxide. The difference is not too big. I found out that the grit used in metalurgy for sand blasting and moulding is almost pure silica. Now I'm almost sure that it will work but before I try I'd  be happy if anyone will confirm or deny this idea.
 
The same story with polishing materials. I can not find either cerium oxide or the red powder (sorry I dont know what is it in English).  The idea is to use  green chromium dioxide(Cr2O3). This stuff is used for polishing metals. I don't have a fine grinded glass to try it but I polished a 100 years old copper kettle - the result is very impressive. All comments are wellcomed.
 
By the way sorry if I'm rising theme which is chewed and swallowed many times ago, but I haven't found anything on the subject in russian ATM literature.
 
Best wishes, Merry Christmas to all.
 
Dennis Nikitin,
Tashkent/Uzbekistan.