Re: ATM Two kits for APO making. 6" F/8 and 7" F/8

["AstroIdiot" <tgooch@arkwest.com>]

Ken is right.

 This group builds 40 inch reflectors, Maksutovs, Rumacks, several in the
ATM community have built 8,10,11 inch refractors. Money is not the concern
 of some on this list. We don't build telescopes because they are cheaper to
 build than commercial scopes. We build because of the experimentation and
quality of the scopes we can build. We build because of our thirst of
 Knowledge.
 Since you claim we cannot obtain the glass to make these then you must make
 available a kit for the ATM community to experiment with. If all you want
is
 to make
a buck off of us advertise in Sky & Tel or Astronomy.
 As for the project 'what is the project' to buy your product or to develop
a
 new product
 for you to sell, or maybe develop a cheaper better alternative that would
 be buildable by any astute amature to incorporate into his scope.

 If the latter then I have had you all wrong!

 Tommy

Also Richard I have nothing against any nationality,I work in a dominatly
non american
enviroment.

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Richard Schwartz" <richas@earthlink.net>
> To: <atm@shore.net>
> Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2001 12:21 AM
> Subject: Fw: ATM Two kits for APO making. 6" F/8 and 7" F/8
>
>
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Sky Glow" <skyglow2000@yahoo.com>
> > To: "Richard Schwartz" <richas@earthlink.net>
> > Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 9:02 AM
> > Subject: Re: ATM Two kits for APO making. 6" F/8 and 7" F/8
> >
> >
> > >
> > > --- Richard Schwartz <richas@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > > > You will get a lot of unpleasant messages.  Do not
> > > > feel bad, there is still
> > > > a lot of memory of the Soviet times,  Nikita
> > > > Krushchev, etc,  when you were
> > > > the bad guys.   Since my fathers parents were from
> > > > Odessa, I don't feel that
> > > > way.
> > > >
> > > > You will have to get some amateurs to try your kit
> > > > and report the results.
> > > > If the results are good, the word will spread and
> > > > your project will succeed.
> > > > There is no way to know in advance, so it is like
> > > > buying a California
> > > > lottery ticket.
> > > >
> > > > . . . Richard
> > >
> > > Thanks Richard,
> > >
> > > I live just in two hours drive from Odessa. :-)
> > >
> > > OK, I see, that most peoples now consider this
> > > question (not offer!!!) as too commercial.
> > >
> > > So to all, who would like to participate in the
> > > development of this optics for amateurs I would
> > > advice to write me to my personal address
> > > aries@selena.kherson.ua
> > >
> > > I hope, that some qualified ATMers will participate
> > > in the development of this product for amateurs as
> > > this were done with a Chromacor - the most opened
> > > project in astro-community. Due to some amateurs
> > > active participation, this product now is quite easy
> > > to use even by very inexperience amateurs.
> > >
> > > It is picty to see, that several ATMers simply denied
> > > the opportunity for others to discuss this possibly
> > > interested project for thouse of rest, who may be
> > > interesting in making his own inexpensive large APO.
> > >
> > > I read a lot of messages in archives where peoples
> > > discussed the possibility to build at home a good
> > > APO. Unfortunately, I didn't find any successfully
> > > finished project description. Even achromat build is
> > > still a problem.  If several of you consider, that
> > > this situation is good and better to keep it intact,
> > > then, OK, no any discussion here.
> > > Contact me privately or join to the
> > > aries-instruments Yahoo n.g.  Peoples there are much
> > > less conservative.
> > >
> > > All the best and wish you all success in ATM.
> > >
> > >
> > > BTW. For Tommy: even if I will give the description
> > > of our system, you will be not able to find the
> > > glasses we do use for corrector - they are our unique
> > > development.  Similar systems are well known, but
> > > they require much larger correctors installed inside
> > > the tube. Such correctors will have too long cool
> > > down and its price will impress you too.
> > > Our intention to give amateurs the possibility to
> > > build their own large APOs.  Making a complete OTA
> > > almost double the profit, but we also do understand,
> > > that far not all peoples can pay full money and they,
> > > probably, will be interested to build a scope
> > > theirselves. The money is not all in this world,
> > > Tommy.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Valery Deryuzhin
> > > ARIES.
> > >
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