The pages where you subscribed to the list have a archive that goes all the way back to when it started. There's a lot of wonderful gleanings that can be gotten out of all that stuff. http://www.efn.org/~mbartels/ Bob May My new web space address is http://webu.wigloo.com/bobmay/ or http://nav.to/bobmay and my new email address is bobmay@nethere.com Bob May