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Re: ATM Active Optics
Andy Saulietis <iss@pvtnetworks.net> wrote:
> Antonio writes,
>
> > Has anybody challenged the idea of buildin an active
> >optics system. It's been going round my head for some time and I don't
> >too ambitious project. Does anybody have information? Benoit
> >Schillings and Brad Wallis page (developers of SBIG AO7 system):
> >http://voltaire.csun.edu/ao.html There is also another unit by Stellar
> >Products in: http://wwwstellarproducts.com But both are omercial
> >sites, so the have just the pretty pictures but no info :-( Does
> >anybody have further information or knows of someone who has tried it?
>
> Benoit's system is actually a rapid response tip-tilt mirror
> which corrects for guiding errors and the average movement
> of the seeing disk & thus improves the apparent resolution
> of CCD/photo images as these are now limited only by the
> size of the seeing disk.
>
> These systems are not actually 'active' optics in the sense usually
> applied, in which a movable optical surface is used to modify the
> wavefront to compensate for atmospheric aberrations, and actually
> reduce the size of the star image by improving the wavefront. These
> systems are very expensive & a long way from being within the reach of ATM's
> currently, but some of the requirements are getting easier, such as
> the availability of Ghz processors, and lasers. I've been toying
> with ideas related to using a CCD camera to record a Harmann test
> in ~ real time to control the figure of a large thin mirror.
>
>
OK - I haven't even played with building thing one relating to
adaptive optics, but I have done a moderate amount of educated
fantasizing about it, and I've played with the math a bit. (i.e. John
places his hat firmly over his mouth, so as to talk through it).
That said, some points:
-If you're at all serious about this, get your hands on a copy of JOSA
March 1977. It's a special-topic issue on adaptive optics. Good Stuff.
-I'm not at all sure that a CCD camera and digital frame processor is
the best way to go for this. The required spatial resolution for your
wavefront sensors is quite low; basicly, the same resolution as your
mirror deformation system. In other words, a 4x4 grid of mirror
actuators only requires a 4x4 "pixel" wavefront error sensor. This
being so, I'd be inclined to try photomultiplier tubes (if I could
pick 'em up cheap) or good quality photodiodes (Burr-Brown makes some
nice ones with integrated op-amps for first stage signal buffering)
for sensors, and an analog computer to generate the actuator
signals. As Andy notes, the required update rate is ~100Hz; this is
cake for even cheap op-amps.
-If I did try a digital processor, I'd look at low-end DSP chips;
there are some evaluation boards out there in the $100-$200 range
that could probably handle the job. A DSP feels better matched to the
task; only moderate amounts of RAM, but gobs of computational power.
-The primary headache, from what I can see, is the deformable mirror,
with the wavefront sensors running a distant second. The deformable
mirror is actually a moderately formidable construction project,
depending on how you tackle the problem.
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