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Re: [APML] Possible Fake or Worse??
Hi Steve
I'm pleased to see that you are not all that offended, but I still think
that it's not an appropriate way of doing things. At first I wondered if it
was a joke, but, alas, it wasn't.
When I said that the 10D is more like film, I meant it felt that way at the
getting ready for/taking the exposure stage (save for the hour long exposure
and wating for developing). I have done imaging with a 237A, and the
processing end is similar to the 10D stuff, except that beating down the
noise and 'saving' the low signal is trickier.
I, too, have been using Registar and PS with the 10D stuff, but after doing
some research it seems that Images Plus may have more features for digital
camera images in place. Maxim DL is a GREAT program, but it seems to run
slow with my stuff...I don't know why....and IP does everything but the
final tweaking in PS for me.
Enjoy your learning curve with the 10D. I'm still slowly climbing mine, but
I have been having a ball! I'm looking forward to seeing more results of
your efforts.
I will email directly to you a shot or two I have taken. (I don't have a
website...yet)
Clear skies.....and low noise!
Derek
----- Original Message -----
From: Stephen Pitt <lthuedk@pe.net>
To: Discussion of Film Astrophotography <astro-photo@seds.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 1:59 AM
Subject: Re: [APML] Possible Fake or Worse??
> Derek, its not a problem-the innuendos, accusations, and such. Actually,
> I'm both flattered and amazed. Treating the files like they're film
> tends to give film-like results, but with far less forgiveness. I've
> got to get the "proper" software for speeding up the processing of so
> many images and dark frames. As it now stands, the processing is too
> tedious.
>
> I think what is so eye-opening is the sensitivity of the CMOS to the
> faint stuff in just 5-minutes. When the temp falls towards winter, I
> plan on upping the exp time to 10-15min!
>
> Regards,
>
> Stephen Pitt: http://www.light-to-dark.com/
>
> DEREK BAKER wrote:
> > Carl
> >
> > Thanks for speaking up. It's good to see that one can mention the 10D in
> > public on this forum without being cast in a negative light! (I think
it's
> > closer to film photography than CCD, if one can compare.)
> >
> > For what it's worth, I concur.....the image looks like it could be a 10D
> > pic. I haven't shot M31 yet, but from my experience the level of signal
and
> > noise seems realistic. I must also add that, IMHO, questioning the
> > legitimacy of a photo submitted/published probably should not be done in
an
> > open forum such as the APML. This is just a hobby, and the damage done
just
> > by publicly challenging a person's reputation is not worth it. Perhaps
such
> > things should be discussed in private, or face to face with the person
> > involved.
> >
> > BTW Carl, I'm a relative newbie in astrophotgraphy, so I haven't seen
your
> > name in my searches.
> > Do you have a website? I'd love to see some 10D shots you've taken.
> >
> > regards.
> >
> > Derek Baker
> > derekb@sympatico.ca
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Cal Sandfort <csandfort@direcway.com>
> > To: Discussion of Film Astrophotography <astro-photo@seds.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2003 10:35 PM
> > Subject: Re: [APML] Possible Fake or Worse??
> >
> >
> >
> >>I have a 10D and have followed with interest images from this camera
> >>since I might use mine for astro-shots. This image has the purplish star
> >>color I've seen in many (most) 10D images. I, for what it's worth, think
> >>it's legit.
> >>
> >>Cal Sandfort
> >>
> >>RayRochelle wrote:
> >>
> >>>Could this be true??
> >>>Mr. Pitt says this is his photo of M31 on a CMOS 10D Digital Camera???
> >>>I seem to recognize this photo?????!!!!!!
> >>>Any help with this from the group??
> >>>Ray Rochelle
> >>>
> >>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>From: "Stephen Pitt" <lthuedk@pe.net>
> >>>To: <digital_astro@yahoogroups.com>
> >>>Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 2:38 PM
> >>>Subject: [digital_astro] Testing the Digital Waters
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>This is my first image post using a digital anything,
> >>>>
> >>>>http://www.light-to-dark.com/m31_10D.html
> >>>>
> >>>>and I have found the 10D to be quite a challenge, with a fresh set of
> >>>>ideosyncrasies to deal with, like noise, uneven field colour
> >>>>temperature (possibly heat from the electronics), and vivid background
> >>>>colour pixellation. The processing is at least as challenging as that
> >>>>of film and its easy understand the need for dedicated software that
> >>>>could make stacking and dark frame subtraction less labor intensive.
> >>>>
> >>>>Admittedly, I got the 10D hoping for a panacea, a short cut to quick
> >>>>imaging, but find such things as noise reduction-like SBGNR-more of a
> >>>>necessity than an occasional luxury. But then, I'm not used to
> >>>>stacking more than 2 or 3 film images and ending up with smooth
> >>>
> > pictures.
> >
> >>>>Anyway, the chip is challenging. I can't help but wondering about
> >>>>cooling effects on image quality. Perhaps, when winter comes, the
> >>>>CMOS will be more image friendly, as ambients of 72-75 deg., such as
> >>>>those during the above acquisition seem to be quite noisy.
> >>>>
> >>>>All of this is to say, I have come to respect the work done by others
> >>>>using their digital cameras. And, I have to ask: Would such programs
> >>>>like I.P. make more efficient use of time in processing the images
> >>>>than say, P.S. and RegiStar?
> >>>>
> >>>>Thanking you for a reply,
> >>>>
> >>>>Stephen: http://www.light-to-dark.com/ iew my Photos go here
> >>>
> >>>http://www.usefilm.com/browse.php?mode=port&data=17313
> >>>Dance like no one's watching
> >>>Love like you've never been hurt before
> >>>Live like heaven is here on earth
> >>>121.80/39.75
> >>>Ray Rochelle
> >>>
> >>>
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