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Re: [APML] Red / H-alpha work with film



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Jeff;
    Thanks for posting the images! I had no idea that E200 worked this well through an H-alpha filter. Very nice contrast, and a fairly deep image. It doesn't have the grain and contrast of tech pan but it looks like a pretty good substitute. Nice shooting!
 
John Mirtle
Calgary, Ab. Canada
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff Ball
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 7:38 AM
Subject: RE: [APML] Red / H-alpha work with film

Hello Tim,
Well, you made me get off of my duff and work on this image.  It is a quick go at it, but I think it may answer some questions.  I shot some short exposures of Cygnus from Spruce Knob with Provia.  I then shot some hydrogen alpha (Lumicon) through the Pentax 105 at f4 from a moderately light polluted location on E200.  BTW, I did push process the E200 two stops and the grain is pretty noticeable.  I thought I would then use the hydrogen to enhance the reds in the Provia.  I shot for one hour (details on website) on the E200 thru the filter.  I did have some significant light pollution gradients.  I had to correct for this and that altered the star brightness and thus the red color balance of the stars.  I then mixed the hydrogen alpha with the red channel from the Provia to try and maintain the star color balance in the gradient corrected areas. 
 
That is one question I have, how to do a color gradient correction in an area without altering the star color balance?  Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
Here are the links: 
 
The HydrogenRGB
 
 
The halpha with gradient correction.  You can see the star brightness difference in the upper right.
 
 
I don't have time to post the straight RGB with the Provia.  I think you can do some good work with the hydrogen alpha from a light polluted environment.  Especially if you are going to keep it in black and white.  The gradient corrections are less noticeable compared to when you try to assign color to the areas.  Best wishes and keep us posted.  Nice pictures you posted recently!
Jeff Ball
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-astro-photo@seds.org [mailto:owner-astro-photo@seds.org] On Behalf Of Tim Povlick
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 10:38 PM
To: astro-photo@seds.org
Subject: [APML] Red / H-alpha work with film

 
The inspiration for this "idea" is from Robert Reeves most excellent book
WIde Field Astrophotography as well as some of the H-Alpha pictures
the CCDers are posting.  I was thinking of using a red filter in my mag 3.x
skies and shooting say M42.  I don't want to deal with TP and hypering
etc so was wondering if E200 would be a reasonable film.  Scan the
image and take only the red channel, then convert this to B&W.  I hink
you would end up with a decent looking B&W which one can do from the
backyard.
 
I'm guessing a true H-alpha filter would have way to much a filter
factor to consider film?
 
 
Thanks for any comments,
 
Tim Povlick
San Juan Capistrano, CA