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Re: [APML] Lunar Photography



Hi Scott,
 
Yup, that was too much magnification on the moon. Even if the scope could give sharp projection images at that power and focal ratio, atmospheric turbulence and vibrations in the mount and camera will be working against you.
 
1.) Make sure your scope is well collimated at a high power. If it isn't, you'll never get the best out of it.
 
2.) Can you lock up your camera's mirror? Are you firing the shutter with a cable release? I find it's best to lock up the mirror, then use the self timing feature of the camera to trip the shutter without me touching the system for a several seconds, leaving only the shutter itself as a source of vibrations. Using the "hat-trick" technique is an even better way if the exposures are 1/4 second or more, as that would eliminate the shutter vibration effects.
 
3.) For eyepiece projection, stick with eyepieces in the 15 to 25mm range. This will still get you good magnification, and a more reasonable f-ratio than what you were trying before. You can always enlarge an area of a sharp photo for the magnification effect you wanted in the first place.
 
4.) For prime focus shots, knife edge (or Ronchi grating) focusing on a star is the way to go. However, for eyepiece projection photography, it's almost impossible to find the "right spot" in the resulting shadow pattern with a knife edge. The best way here is to use a Hartmann mask on a bright star. Ron Wodaski has a good page on Hartman masks with sample star images at: http://www.newastro.com/newastro/book_new/c2_d.asp
Remember that it's usually best to finish focusing an 8"SCT by turning the knob CCW, as this pushes "up" on the mirror thus taking up any slack in the focusing mechanism.
 
Hope this helps.
 
John Boudreau
jeboud@mediaone.net
http://people.ne.mediaone.net/jeboud/astro.htm
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 12:24 PM
Subject: [APML] Lunar Photography

I have just experienced one of the more frustrating lunar photography sessions of my short life and have a couple of questions about the whole experience.
 
I have been  using an 8" Meade LX-200 and a Canon ELAN II (35mm SLR) doing prime focus (camera mounted directly to the telescope with out an eye peice) and am finaly starting to get some good results (for your viewing pleasure some of the more recent shots can be found at http://www.manetheren.net/night).  Focusing was a little off at first, and then I had some issues with camera shake (the mirror wasn't tripping up prior to shooting) but finaly worked those out.
 
So I figure I'm ready to try some eyepeice projection.  I throw in a 26mm super plossl (f/28.4), and right off the bat I notice I can't find that "sweet spot" in the focus where everything is crystal clear.  As my camera's meter is fairly sensitive, I bracket some of these shots on focus instead of shutter speed.
 
Then I decide to go for the gusto and throw in a teleview 4.8mm Nagler (f/198.5).  I couldn't even come close to getting things in focus.  Same results with my 9.7mm Super Plossl (f/94.3).  Everything is just a fuzzy gray and brown blur.  I tried extending my tele-extender all the way out and all the way back in.  Didn't make a diffrence.
 
I guess what I'm realy wondering is if those focal ratios (and attendant maginifcations) are simply beyond the ability of my scope and camera to handle. 
 
Thanks,
Scott
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