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Fight! was RE: [APML] Images in Magazines (was Mirtle and Germano inS&T)



(I know I'm going to regret wading into the middle
of this, but that's never stopped me before. ;->

Hey guys, let's play nice out there. There are two
sides to every argument. 

Robert, Chris is technically correct: By the rules 
you shouldn't be dicussing CCD images here. But if 
you can't do it, then I guess Tony Hallas can't do 
it either. And you've received very few compaints
about the practise, I would gather. AND, if it was 
a real problem, I suspect Gene (the OFFICIAL
administrator of this mailing list) would step in 
and lay down the law. OTOH, you COULD get in the 
habit of prefacing your subject lines with OT, 
since they are!

Chris, Rob is certainly right about the relative
number of CCD vs. film images that have appeared
in the S&T gallery (after all, he's found the time
to count them; I see you don't dispute his numbers).
AND he's write, in my opinion, to suspect that
there are many film diehards (you proudly count
yourself among them) who feel slighty <g> 
antagonistic toward CCD and its proponents. The
same thing is going on the movie world, where 
digital cinema is trying to replace film. Director
Steven Soderbergh said "It's my experience that 
there are a lot of people out there who have a
romantic notion about sprockets. Somebody I was
talking to the other day called them 'grain 
sniffers.'" :-)

Here's my perspective on the film vs. CCD "debate":
they both work and they both have strengths and
weaknesses. MANY film users would probably ALSO like
to do CCD. I'm not sure how many CCDers would like 
to try film, but in any case they probably wouldn't
have the time - they've got their hands full just 
with CCD. ;-)

So, I suspect most film users here in this 
ostensibly film-only list don't mind seeing the 
best examples of images taken with CCDs (I'm sure
we can count Rob's among the best!) or digital 
cameras (I'm thinking of those amazing shots taken
by Johannes Schedler with a Canon D60) especially 
as these devices start "encroaching" into the area 
of wide-field imaging where film is strongest. But
CCD getting good at that doesn't suddenly invalidate
film as a capture medium. However, it does mean, 
IMHO, that film will eventually become the harder 
way to achieve that end (just look, for example,
at how good films for AP are dissappearing).

In the words of Rodney King (repeated by an actor
in ape makeu-up in a bad remake of a science-
fiction movie) can't we all just get along. :->  





  




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