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Re: [APML] M42 and Neat image - SGBNR



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Dan -
Thanks for posting.  I've only had about 6 hours total with the program and I can already tell it is a winner!  I'm looking forward to getting more in depth with it.
 
Chris
 
 
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Chris Cook
Astronomical Photography
www.abmedia.com/astro
-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel Norman <denorman@worldnet.att.net>
To: astro-photo@seds.org <astro-photo@seds.org>
Date: Saturday, March 02, 2002 8:41 PM
Subject: Re: [APML] M42 and Neat image - SGBNR

SGBNR is like BGSmooth except you have total control over EVERYTHING and it is full TIFF compliant. N. I. and G.S. both leave artifacts, SGBNR does not. Do this; do the best you can with either program to zap the noise/grain, then grossly over sharpen the image and you will see these artifacts. Do the same with SGBNR and no artifacts, just a grossly over sharpened image. I have been beta testing this program for Juan Conejero for some time now and IMO it is by far the best noise reduction application going. Controlling the Mask is probable the most important element and it takes some practice to get it right. SGBNR gives you total independent control over all three color channels and total independent control over the shape and size of the convoluting matrix and you get to see a preview of the changes you make; zoomed in up to 4x if need be. The red channel may need a different mask or matrix shape or matrix size from the blue channel, ect. The mask controls what's zapped by the convoluting matrix and you control both.  A simple unsharp mask in PS pops the image back to the original sharpness or because of the lack of noise, the image can be sharpened further. This application deserves some serious scrutinizing and it's FREE.
 
Dan Norman      
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Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 4:51 PM
Subject: Re: [APML] M42 and Neat image - SGBNR

There is also a program called SGBNR short for Selective Gaussian Blur Noise Reduction.  Jim Janusz posted a thread a while back about this program.  I downloaded it last night and have been playing around with it.  My first impression is that it is not much better than BGSmooth except the interface is quite user friendly. 
It is free, which is always good.  It is also currently in Beta.  It can be downloaded here:  www.pleiades-astrophoto.com/en.html
 
 
Chris
 
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Chris Cook
Astronomical Photography
www.abmedia.com/astro
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Ball <jeffball@netacs.net>
To: astro-photo@seds.org <astro-photo@seds.org>
Date: Saturday, March 02, 2002 2:40 PM
Subject: RE: [APML] Reprocessed M42 and Neat image

Warren,
Without really understanding Neat Image (or BigSmooth for that matter), I think Neat Image may offer greater selectivity in the smoothing.  It also has a smart sharp routine that seems to work well.  BGsmooth is very nice and I am grateful for its availability.  Perhaps someone who understands the software and science behind the image manipulation can comment.  Neat image does show you a preview as you adjust the parameters.  As Jason wrote, Neat Image is very slow, even on web size.  I will have to play around with it when I get more time.
 
Jeff Ball