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Re: [APML] Maco Rollei R3 [was: Fortepan B&W Film Test - No Good]



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I noticed that the Maco Rollei R3 pdf brochure (& the Freestyle Photographic Supplies webpage based on it) describes the film's spectral sensitivity as "super-apochromatic". This of course should be "super-panchromatic", since a _film_ doesn't focus different wavelenghts at different points from the objective, not to mention the other requirements of the definition "apo"! (Thomas Back's discussion of this is the best I've come across: http://voltaire.csun.edu/tmb/definition.html ). I'm very surprised that Rollei, of all people, would allow this serious error get into their promotional material.

On the plus side - this R3 film looks like it has one unexpected benefit for medium format astrophotographers: film flatness! There is quite a lot written in the pdf brochure about how stiff it is compared to "the usual triacetate films" in medium format: "The polyester film support is much stronger mechanically than normal triacetate bases. As a result, the material exhibits a certain amount of stiffness. This may cause medium-format roll film to snap open as the tape holding the roll is removed." This tendency of the film to straighten itself out and hold its stiffness should in principle be good for maintaining film flatness during long exposures, as well as reducing or eliminating the 'frame kinked from sitting on the rollers for a while' problem which afflicts cameras with a double-back film path (like Mamiya 645 & 67, Hasselblads, Bronicas, Kiev 88s, Pentax 645s, etc...)

But the reciprocity specs look awful, so hypering would have to work well, for this film to be any good for deep sky.

Ray "who has found film non-flatness to be the the gremlin in medium format astrophotos, more often than any other issue" Butler



gbuckles@widefieldastrophotography.com wrote:
Don,

You may want to check this film out: Maco Rollei R3. It's a German B&W
film that Freestyle Photographic Supplies carries in LA. It's available in
35mm, 120 and 4x5. The range is 380~710/730nm. Could be worthwhile.

Here is Freestyle's product description. There is a link at the bottom for
the .pdf tech brochure:

http://www.freestylephoto.biz/sc_prod.php?cat_id=403&pid=1000000747


Freestyle also lists a Maco T64 in the OTHER film section as a "tech pan
replacement". Couldn't find out much about it though. I think the Rollei
R3 is the one to look at.

Garth



  
Hi All,

I have been collaborating with George Anderson to see if there is a film
    
that can be used in place of the discontinued TechPan.  George sent me a
roll of FortePan 200 and 400 film.  I exposed them to the same series as
my
  
color film tests to check for reciprocity out to 4-1/2 hours.  Both
    
films
  
were tested unhypered.

The FortePan has severe reciprocity, especially the 200 film.  I barely
    
could get a reading on the red at 4 minutes, and couldn't see anything at
  
longer exposures.  The 400 film also has severe reciprocity in 4
    
minutes,
  
but I was able to just get some extremely low readings out to 68
    
minutes.
  
Neither
FortePan film looks viable as a stock film.

We will see if hypering helps.  If we find something that works, we will
    
let
  
you know.

Don


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