Re: [APML] Slightly OT : Any experience with Lambda or LighJetprints of astrophotos?

[Jerry Lodriguss <jml@astropix.com>]

>I did softproof with a profile for a similar paper.  There were no large
>color shifts.  There were some small areas that were out of gamut - nothing
>large.  It was nowhere close to the final output that I got.  I'm trying to
>get the exact profile that the lab used.


Was it a profile for that specific paper and the specific printer also?


I did not, but the lab claimed that they did.

>The part that bothers me is that they told me that they use one profile for
>the metalic and "normal" papers and they tweak the original.


Then it should have appeared red/green on their monitor before they made 
the print.




>  According to
>the tech, there is so much variance in the chemical development that there
>is no point in having an exact profile for each paper.  I'm not sure if I
>buy that.




I don't think I buy that either.




>  I've had traditional prints made on different days and I can't
>tell them apart.  If color management does this poorly, there is no point to
>using it!


Yea, I know what you mean.




>I'm lucky that I have a second local lab that can do this.  I guess I'll
>give it a try.  There are labs that rely completely on softproofs and claim
>that their output is so close they don't need hardproofs 95% of the time...


If that fails, try AutumnColor.

Jerry







>Mike
>
> > Jerry
> >
> > At 10:34 PM 6/10/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> > >I thought it would be nice to make some "professional" prints of some of
> > >my astrophotos.  The lab I use has a Durst Lambda 130 that will do
> > >prints up to 50" wide on several types of paper including a "metalic"
> > >paper and DuraTrans.  It uses tri-color lasers to output to normal C41
> > >or RA4 paper.
> > >
> > >This sounded like the perfect way to make some big enlargements.  I have
> > >profiled my monitor, so it seemed like it would be easy to get a print
> > >that closely matched my monitor...
> > >
> > >Well, unfortunately, the results have been very dissapointing so far.
> > >The first test print with no adjustments was way too red and green.  The
> > >technician made some adjustments and got closer, but still, I was not
> > >pleased with the result vs. my cheap inkjet.
> > >
> > >I intend to try a different lab for comparison.  But, this lab is good
> > >at what they do (they handle a lot of stuff for Nike and other well
> > >known companies...).
> > >
> > >My question, has anyone on the list tried either the Lambda or LightJet
> > >for AP's?  Were you successful at matching the colors you wanted?  I
> > >realize that no photo on paper can match the gamut of my monitor, but,
> > >this was not even close to what I expected...
> > >
> > >In general, inkjets seem to have lots of advantages.  But, I really like
> > >the look of the metalic paper and I really, really want to backlight a
> > >couple of shots.  I don't think these sorts of things can be done with
> > >inkjets.  Am I wishing for the impossible???
> > >
> > >Thanks for any tips,
> > >Mike
> > >
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