Re: [APML] OT: New 35mm Astro CCD camera

[Vicent Peris <vicentperis@ya.com>]

I have been thinking on taking piggyback photos with my Kawai 400 kg.
grand piano... It's black, must have a good QE... I don't know if the
Paramount will load it, or the piano will load the mount...

I think that the 11000 is reasonably priced. It's a great idea make some
models with interline CCDs, to make available to the budget of the public
high resolution arrays. Such camera with a full frame sensor can cost,
at least, 4 or 5 times more.

Vicent.



At 13:38 16/07/2003 -0700, you wrote:
> >>
> >>> Awesome shots but the camera is $10,000.
>
>$8,995 is what we are aiming at actually.
>
> >>> Show me this when the same camera is $1500.  Then I'll bite.
> >>
> >>I don't think it's ever going to happen that the latest generation of
> >>cameras will be priced within the budget of the average amateur. The
> >>trend has been for new introductions to be more expensive than the
> >>previous generation. Eventually you'll be able to pick up a used one
> >>for that price but by that time it'll be 3 generations old  and no one
> >>will want it anyway. ;-)
>
>That's not entirely true.  A 6" AP with 4" FF will cost about the same as
>most of our new larger format cameras.  These scopes have been made for
>amateurs for years and there is a very log wait to get a new one.  So
>amateurs must find the money for the hobby somehow.  Compare it to the cost
>of a ski boat or a coule of wave runners.  How about an RV?  These things
>are all bought for pleasure.  Prior to the introduction of the 11000, the
>next nearest sized astro CCD camera was the 6303 offered by a couple of
>other companies for the range of $25,000 to 30,000 depending on the class
>of CCD.  This did not include a filter wheel (add $1000) or autoguider (add
>another $1000).  The new Class 1 11000 has a larger CCD with 80% nmore
>pixels (11 million vs. 6 million), it has self-guiding and a filter wheel
>for less than half the price of the 6303 with Class 2 detector.  And our
>similar featured 6303 camera will cost less than previously available astro
>cameras with the same CCD, and it will include an autoguider and a filter
>wheel.  Yes, these are expensive items.  But they are coming down.  Why do
>they cost so much?  Well, for one thing Tony could buy two professional
>guitars for the price of just one Class 2 6303 CCD (camera not included)
>from Kodak.  So maybe that explains something.
>
>And, Tony.  I am sure you guitars are very nice.  But strap one to the side
>of your telescope and wait for the image to appear and you'll find they're
>completely useless <g>.
>
>Regards,
>Michael Barber
>SBIG
>
>
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