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Re: [APML] Couple more ST-4 questions



Hi Bert,
    Thanks for the reply.  What you're saying makes sense.  It's interesting, I have never done a calibration without getting some E readings.  But it seems to guide fine anyway.  Could these errors be due to sky turbulence or something?
 
Thanks for the help.  I'm gonna have to look into a longer extension tube for the GEG.  In the meantime, I will shoot at f/10.  Unfortunately, I don't have a long focal-length guidescope (only have a 400mm mak, and even with a barlow, that's only 800mm, not half of 2500mm).
 
Thanks again!
Frank
 
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Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: [APML] Couple more ST-4 questions

Hi Frank:
I don't see any expert replies to your questions so I'll chime in with some nonexpert ones <G>:
1. The mode button was put in for some functions that were never implemented by SBIG but as far as I know, its only function now is to permit you to recapture a guidestar after halting guiding for a short time. I believe you hold down the mode and track buttons simultaneously.  Matt and others have remarked on this and it's in the archives somewhere.
2. The A numbers indicate the sum of the x and y errors in the last interval, adjusted in some algebraic way. The higher the number, the greater the correction applied (ie, the worse the tracking). AE just means that the error exceeded 9, so it's worse than A9. For most work, any A value greater than 4 means you're in trouble, but this is also a function of focal length, so at very short focal lengths (eg, piggybacking a 100 mm lens on a camera), you could probably get away with A5s and A6s.
3. The readings *during* the calibration are the brightness value and X and Y pixel positions achieved by the ST-4 applying X and Y relay closings for the C1 and C2 calibrate times that you have set in the menu (or just left at their default values). E numbers after the calibration finishes are error codes. I believe the different numbers can be decoded to tell you what particular error occurred (maybe in the manual?), but I never pay any attention to the specific number, I just try to find a better guide star or center it better on the chip and repeat the calibration. Any E number after a calibrate means calibration has failed and you need to repeat it. If calibration is successful, you just get a "Hello" at the end of the calibration.
Regarding focus with an OAG: the focal point via the off axis guiding port is remarkably far from the optical axis for the 2 systems I have used. I find I need at least 1.5 inches of extension tube in the OAG guiding port to hold the ST-4 far enough away to get it into focus. Lumicon and others carry these extension tubes in various lengths.
Hope this helps and wasn't too obvious....
Bert
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 11:42 PM
Subject: [APML] Couple more ST-4 questions

Thanks to the help of many of you, I was able to successfully (I think) guide some shots tonight.  Now, if someone could explain a few things to me, I'd really appreciate it.  1) What does the mode button do?  2) While guiding, what do those figures mean?  I know a few (I think), but some don't make any sense, and the manual doesn't go into too much detail.  For instance, A=. -0 5  The A= sometimes reads any of the following:  A1, A2, A3, A4...A8,AE, and A=.  (do they represent adjustments?)  They seem to go sequentially- up or down, but not always.  The . (dot), I believe indicates that a relay is engaged.  Then the two numbers are the corrections in x,y (right?).  3) When you do a calibration, what do the readings it produces mean?  For instance, after the calibration ran, it showed this:  E1 4  (then 3), E2 3 (then 4).  Do these numbers mean anything to me?
 
One last question... I got a bit overzealous, and hooked up the GEG, and tried to guide off-axis.  I found that no matter what I did, I couldn't get it in focus (in f/6.3 mode).  I tried the extension tube, and the best I could get was almost in focus with the extension tube literally hanging on by a millimeter, and the ST4 the same.  I could never get it completely in focus.  I double-checked the placement of the lens, even tried using a prism before the ST4 head, and tried a camera extension.  No luck.  Any ideas?  My setup is a 10" LX200, GEG, ST4, Nikon F2.
 
Any help is appreciated.
 
Thanks,
Frank