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Re: [APML] Why this discussion?? WAS The End of Tech Pan???
I'd like to weigh in here now that I caught up on this thread. I am not in the
upper ranks here, but I have been involved in AP for awhile....I am somewhat a
creature of techie and fiddling, and like reading of new technology..
I believe we are on the cusp of a revolution in AP imaging....look at what SBIG
is doing to the ST-7E pricing...brand new on sale for $2,400...why? because when
they release the USB versions no one will want parallel. Finger lakes MaxCam are
USB or Ethernet.....for those like me, I will not need a laptop...I can image
right from my basement desktop with an ethernet or USB line run the 100ft. out
to my scope....also, when you go digital, some of you will not need to lug your
stuff to a dark site....look what Bob G. does from his driveway and Mag. 4.5
skies....How would you like to be able to get the same pics you get now from 100
ft. away, instead of a 20 or 60 mile drive?
I think within 5-8 years film AP will be almost be extinct, or ever so rare, not
just becasue of our migration, but also because suitable film will just
disappear, but also I think an ST-10 class of camera and chip will be under
$3,000, if not even less then that...and be USB or ethernet interface....Bob is
a fantastic addition to this list, not only becasue of his skill and comparison
shots we can make to CCD, but also becasue he has (given me) tips that are
transportable between techniques... ...and as more and more on this list will be
migrating to digital, this list will evolve accordingly....those here are the
single group of the best in this endeavor....
I do all film now, I have not used my 216XT for a picture in years...only
autoguiding (mainly becasue I need another camera to guide) But i also realize
that my skies are getting worse, and the only way to get them back is to travel
(not likely) or move to CCD...as already said ....it's just a matter of time and
money.
off the soapbox..
m.g.
Robert Gendler wrote:
> First, to those who have voiced support for my participation on
> APML I want to say "thank you". The reason I joined APML
> is because I consider myself a student of astroimaging. What better
> place to go than a mailing list where you can exchange ideas and images
> with some of the greatest and most experienced astroimagers
> in the world.
>
> When I first joined APML I wasn't sure what to expect. I didn't know
> if I had much to offer or if I would benefit in any way.
> I knew some of the members (Tony, Mike, Sean,) off the list and they have
> been of tremendous help to me with their valued critiques. I can now say
> that my decision to join has helped me make very substantial improvements in
> my image processing techniques. Although I have sometimes been
> overenthusiastic about CCD I want to say this; I have the utmost respect
> for the fine film imagers on the list and have really enjoyed all their
> images.
> I have great repect for all astroimagers since this is a labor of love and I
> am
> well aware of all the hard work and frustration that goes into this
> demanding hobby.
> I have gained a whole new perspective and appreciation for astroimaging and
> astroimage
> processing techniques by becoming a member of APML.
>
> To answer Howards question, yes I did join for selfish reasons but not the
> reasons he stated.
> I have tried to reciprocate but admittedly I am ignorant about film
> astrophotography and
> the associated techniques. I will try to share whatever techniques I have
> which may be
> of value to all of us. My last comment is that CCD and film imagers have
> alot more in
> common than they have differences. We all share the exhilaration of
> recording the beauty
> of the night sky. The way we record that beauty doesn't really matter.
>
> Rob Gendler
> Email: robgendler@att.net
> Web site: http://www.robgendlerastropics.com/
> > > Howard Edin wrote:
> > >
> > > > And for that matter, why does Robert Gendler continue to cross
> > > post messages
> > > > on CCD images between this list and the CCD listserver? (no
> > > offence Robert,
> > > > nice images, but are you not getting enough feedback there or are you
> > > > attempting to highlight CCD superiority to film or what?).
> > >
> > > (1) As someone else mentioned, Rob asked very nicely if he could take
> part
> > > in our list. While there hasn't been much lately other than "here
> > > is my latest picture" he did stimulate some interesting discussions
> > > about colour accuracy and thanked us for giving him a few pointers.
> > > (2) Before joining the list Rob emailed me personally and asked
> > > if he could
> > > take part as he thought that there were things that he could learn
> > > from this list. I told him that as far as I was concerned for the
> > > most part post-acquisition processing for both methods are very
> > > similar and IMO discussions of this nature was on topic despite
> > > the data being acquired by silicon rather than emulsion.
> > > (3) Personally, rather than seeing less "this is my latest image" posts,
> > > I would rather more "this is the problems I had getting this image
> > > and these are the solutions I came up with" type posts.
> > >
> > >
> > > Gene Horr
> > > genehorr@texas.net
> > >
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m
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