Re: [APML] The End of Tech Pan???

[mohib_ebrahim.smz@attglobal.net]

No problem. All the technical talk on this forum and what's needed for
folks to get the fantastic results like yours definitely overloads more
than my brain. :)


On 01/15/2002 03:47:23 PM Sean Walker  wrote:

>Sorry, it didn't sound like a joke- too many big words for my tiny brain
<g>
>But really, I seemed to have missed the point when you conceeded my point!
>
>Sean Walker
>
>mohib_ebrahim.smz@attglobal.net wrote:
>
>> Lighten up. I conceeded your point, and was just making a philosophical
>> quip about modelling the universe. I'm sure there's room for that here
>> isn't there? After all Joseph's last comment about the US army, or the
>> banter a few posts ago over the quantum universe, has about as much to
do
>> with "pretty picture making"  as mine.
>>
>> Enjoy your day.
>>
>> On 01/15/2002 01:56:00 PM Sean Walker  wrote:
>>
>> >????
>> >So, how exactly does this relate to amateur astro-imaging? I think
you've
>> >gone beyond the realms of what our goals are here on the APML, which is
>> >essentially pretty picture making, not resolution models of the
universe.
>> >let's stay on the level of Amateur here, and Film vs. CCD angular
>> >resolution. I doubt anyone here has plans for a space telescope (which,
>> btw,
>> >would require a CCD to function at all).
>> >
>> >Sean Walker
>> >
>> >> From: mohib_ebrahim.smz@attglobal.net
>> >> Reply-To: astro-photo@seds.org
>> >> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 13:46:50 -0800
>> >> To: astro-photo@seds.org
>> >> Subject: Re: [APML] The End of Tech Pan???
>> >>
>> >> I'm talking in the abstract context of modeling the analogue world in
>> >> general. Modeling of the analogue universe will always limited by
>> >> resolution, by definition.
>> >>
>> >> On 01/15/2002 01:30:32 PM Sean Walker  wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> So what is your problem with resolution? show me a film image that
tops
>> >> this
>> >>> for resolution:
>> >>> http://www.spiegelteam.de/M57gross.htm
>> >>> Aren't we talking amateur imaging here? I don't think you know what
you
>> >> are
>> >>> talking about. CCD's have higher resolution capabilities than what
is
>> >>> possible with techpan.
>> >>>
>> >>> Sean Walker
>> >>>
>> >>>> From: mohib_ebrahim.smz@attglobal.net
>> >>>> Reply-To: astro-photo@seds.org
>> >>>> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 13:23:23 -0800
>> >>>> To: astro-photo@seds.org
>> >>>> Subject: Re: [APML] The End of Tech Pan???
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Point taken.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Now that I'm in the  21st century, it seems to have the same
problem
>> as
>> >> the
>> >>>> 20th century--resolution. Oh well, c'est la vie for humans trying
to
>> >> model
>> >>>> the universe.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 01/15/2002 12:49:09 PM Sean Walker  wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> We are talking about CCD AND film here, and both are
>> "interpretations"
>> >> of
>> >>>>> nature, BOTH create less than perfect interpretations of nature,
so
>> >> your
>> >>>>> implied "closer to truth" statement here about film is wrong. I'm
not
>> >>>> saying
>> >>>>> either is "superior", but CCD is a more efficient recorder of
>> photons-
>> >>>>> scientific fact.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Sean Walker
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> From: mohib_ebrahim.smz@attglobal.net
>> >>>>>> Reply-To: astro-photo@seds.org
>> >>>>>> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 12:39:43 -0800
>> >>>>>> To: astro-photo@seds.org
>> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [APML] The End of Tech Pan???
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Only when human analogue technology is also used to approximate
or
>> >> model
>> >>>>>> the real analogue universe, then we have competition of between
the
>> >>>> models.
>> >>>>>> Digital on the other hand has no option but to make
approximations
>> to
>> >>>> model
>> >>>>>> the universe.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Welcome to the real world. :)
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On 01/15/2002 11:59:33 AM Sean Walker  wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> That is the difference between analogue and digital. The
universe
>> is
>> >>>>>>>> analogue. Digital will forever try with better and better
>> >>>> approximations
>> >>>>>> to
>> >>>>>>>> copy analogue.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Not so- Digital will (and in alot of cases do) be better than
>> >> analog.
>> >>>>>>> Welcome to the 21st Century.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Sean Walker
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
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