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Re: [APML] The End of Tech Pan???
Sorry, it didn't sound like a joke- too many big words for my tiny brain <g>
But really, I seemed to have missed the point when you conceeded my point!
Sean Walker
mohib_ebrahim.smz@attglobal.net wrote:
> Lighten up. I conceeded your point, and was just making a philosophical
> quip about modelling the universe. I'm sure there's room for that here
> isn't there? After all Joseph's last comment about the US army, or the
> banter a few posts ago over the quantum universe, has about as much to do
> with "pretty picture making" as mine.
>
> Enjoy your day.
>
> On 01/15/2002 01:56:00 PM Sean Walker wrote:
>
> >????
> >So, how exactly does this relate to amateur astro-imaging? I think you've
> >gone beyond the realms of what our goals are here on the APML, which is
> >essentially pretty picture making, not resolution models of the universe.
> >let's stay on the level of Amateur here, and Film vs. CCD angular
> >resolution. I doubt anyone here has plans for a space telescope (which,
> btw,
> >would require a CCD to function at all).
> >
> >Sean Walker
> >
> >> From: mohib_ebrahim.smz@attglobal.net
> >> Reply-To: astro-photo@seds.org
> >> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 13:46:50 -0800
> >> To: astro-photo@seds.org
> >> Subject: Re: [APML] The End of Tech Pan???
> >>
> >> I'm talking in the abstract context of modeling the analogue world in
> >> general. Modeling of the analogue universe will always limited by
> >> resolution, by definition.
> >>
> >> On 01/15/2002 01:30:32 PM Sean Walker wrote:
> >>
> >>> So what is your problem with resolution? show me a film image that tops
> >> this
> >>> for resolution:
> >>> http://www.spiegelteam.de/M57gross.htm
> >>> Aren't we talking amateur imaging here? I don't think you know what you
> >> are
> >>> talking about. CCD's have higher resolution capabilities than what is
> >>> possible with techpan.
> >>>
> >>> Sean Walker
> >>>
> >>>> From: mohib_ebrahim.smz@attglobal.net
> >>>> Reply-To: astro-photo@seds.org
> >>>> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 13:23:23 -0800
> >>>> To: astro-photo@seds.org
> >>>> Subject: Re: [APML] The End of Tech Pan???
> >>>>
> >>>> Point taken.
> >>>>
> >>>> Now that I'm in the 21st century, it seems to have the same problem
> as
> >> the
> >>>> 20th century--resolution. Oh well, c'est la vie for humans trying to
> >> model
> >>>> the universe.
> >>>>
> >>>> On 01/15/2002 12:49:09 PM Sean Walker wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> We are talking about CCD AND film here, and both are
> "interpretations"
> >> of
> >>>>> nature, BOTH create less than perfect interpretations of nature, so
> >> your
> >>>>> implied "closer to truth" statement here about film is wrong. I'm not
> >>>> saying
> >>>>> either is "superior", but CCD is a more efficient recorder of
> photons-
> >>>>> scientific fact.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sean Walker
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> From: mohib_ebrahim.smz@attglobal.net
> >>>>>> Reply-To: astro-photo@seds.org
> >>>>>> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 12:39:43 -0800
> >>>>>> To: astro-photo@seds.org
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [APML] The End of Tech Pan???
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Only when human analogue technology is also used to approximate or
> >> model
> >>>>>> the real analogue universe, then we have competition of between the
> >>>> models.
> >>>>>> Digital on the other hand has no option but to make approximations
> to
> >>>> model
> >>>>>> the universe.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Welcome to the real world. :)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 01/15/2002 11:59:33 AM Sean Walker wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> That is the difference between analogue and digital. The universe
> is
> >>>>>>>> analogue. Digital will forever try with better and better
> >>>> approximations
> >>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>> copy analogue.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Not so- Digital will (and in alot of cases do) be better than
> >> analog.
> >>>>>>> Welcome to the 21st Century.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Sean Walker
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
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