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Re: [APML] Monitor settings
I think you intended this as a private message so I'll reply privately.
Mike Cook
From: "mstecker" <mstecker@dslextreme.com>
To: <astro-photo@seds.org>
Subject: Re: [APML] Monitor settings
Date sent: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 12:27:47 -0800
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> Hello Mike Cook:
> Sorry for calling you Chris (Cook) instead of Mike in my last post.
> Maybe you can clear up some of the questions I have on calibration and color
> space.
>
> My goal in preparing my images in PhotoShop is to make them look good
> on my web page when viewed by others over the internet. I find that when I
> use PhotoShop 4 (no color spaces), I get very consistent results. What I
> mean is that images prepared in PS4 look the same in this program as they do
> when published to my web page. When I use PS5, I do not get constant
> results -- i.e. some images look fairly good, but some look different when
> published to my web page.
>
> I was under the assumption that the sRGB color space in PS5 should be
> used for accurate viewing on a monitor over the internet. However, when I
> try to calibrate PS5 using RGB Setup in PS5 for the color space sRGB, it
> changes to a "Custom" setting when I set the white point at 9300K. I
> assume, then that sRGB is set up for viewing at 6500K monitor color
> temperature. The problem is that most people now use a 9300K white point.
> Since this is totally confusing to me, I opt to use the PS4 where I get very
> consistent results (what I see in PS4 looks exactly the same on my web page
> in Internet Explorer). The whole calibration system appears to be is
> disarray. I would think that most people that view my web page do not even
> calibrate their monitors. As an example, I have a friend who is a scientist
> that uses a large $2500 flat panel Mac monitor at work (he can not use a CRT
> because the magnets used in his research distort the image) and uses a Mac
> CRT at home. When I look at one of my web pages on both of his monitors,
> they look completely different (brightness). So I asked him to calibrate
> his Mac flat panel monitor in Adobe Gamma. The image changed dramatically
> and it now more closely approaches the one I see on my monitor.
> Unfortunately, I think that most people are like my friend and do not
> calibrate their monitors.
>
>
> Michael Stecker
> mstecker@dslextreme.com
>
> My Web Site:
> http://www.homestead.com/mstecker/index.html (INDEX)
> http://www.homestead.com/mstecker/astrogallery.html (Astroimage Index)
> http://www.homestead.com/mstecker/placesindex.html (Places Index)
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Cook, AF9Y" <mwcook@concentric.net>
> To: <astro-photo@seds.org>
> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 4:05 AM
> Subject: Re: [APML] Monitor settings
>
>
> > Michael,
> >
> > What color space were you using in PhotoShop when you made your
> > tests?
> >
> >
> > From: "mstecker" <mstecker@dslextreme.com>
> > To: <astro-photo@seds.org>
> > Subject: Re: [APML] Monitor settings
> > Date sent: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 23:40:44 -0800
> > Send reply to: astro-photo@seds.org
> >
> > > Hello Warren:
> > > I also find monitor calibration a difficult task. I do not have a
> Compaq computer,
> > > but use an IBM clone with Windows 98. Supposedly the Adobe Gamma
> is supposed to
> > > calibrate your monitor to their standard (ICC). I find two
> problems with this. The
> > > first is that a lot of people don't use it and the second is that
> the calibration
> > > parameter is nebulous or uncertain when you adjust the brightness
> of your monitor in
> > > Adobe Gamma. I have the contrast on my Viewsonic Graphic Series
> G771 set at 100 and
> > > the brightness set at 90 (unfortunately some of the newer Viewsonic
> monitors do not
> > > have quantitative settings). Some months ago I ran a test on two
> monitors (my
> > > Viewsonic and a Samsung). They were both calibrated with Adobe
> Gamma and I tried to
> > > make several web page photos using both monitors. I adjusted the
> images in Photoshop
> > > so they would look the same on both monitors. I then published
> both sets of photos
> > > on a single web page and asked several people to view these images
> on their monitors
> > > over the internet. The responses were quite variable. Some liked
> those prepared on
> > > my Viewsonic, some the Samsung and one person thought they were
> equal. This just
> > > shows you how variable monitor calibration is.
> > >
> > >
> > > Michael Stecker
> > > mstecker@dslextreme.com
> > >
> > > My Web Site:
> > > http://www.homestead.com/mstecker/index.html (INDEX)
> > > http://www.homestead.com/mstecker/astrogallery.html (Astroimage Index)
> > > http://www.homestead.com/mstecker/placesindex.html (Places Index)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Warren Keller
> > > To: apml
> > > Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 8:23 PM
> > > Subject: [APML] Monitor settings
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi guys,
> > > I asked this awhile back, but with no responses, thought
> I'd try again. I
> > > find every online step wedge to be quite different and in
> fact the various
> > > representations of Chuck's does not look the same in
> several mirrored
> > > sites. Even my scanner's program has one. It is for this
> reason that I am
> > > constantly adjusting and am never convinced my processing
> is 'right'. If I
> > > set to Chuck's, my eyeballs get ripped from their
> sockets.
> > >
> > > I believe my Adobe gamma stored settings are good, but I'd still like
> some of you,
> > > especially Compaq owners, to just look at their monitor's
> Brightness/Contrast settings
> > > and tell me what ballpark you're running at.
> > >
> > > Thank you! Warren
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > Mike Cook, AF9Y
> > http://www.webcom.com/af9y
> > mwcook@cris.com
> >
> >
> >
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