Re: [APML] Film is not dead

[Jerry Lodriguss <lists3@astropix.com>]

Hi Chuck,

After my personal experiences with Nikon and with Canon, I would seriously 
recommend you go with a Canon, unless you already have a heavy investment 
in Nikon lenses. There are numerous reasons for this, which I can get into 
later if you would like, but I'm pressed for time right now.

The great examples that I linked to were mostly taken with a modified Nikon 
D70, but I think that both the Canons and the Nikons, with the filter 
removed, are capable of excellent h-alpha work.

I would not be overly influenced by the fact that these specific 
exceptional pictures were taken with the Nikon, I think that is more a 
factor of the expertise of the user than the camera. There are some great 
Canon pix out there also, I just didn't have time to dig them up.

Jerry





At 01:20 PM 2/28/2005, you wrote:
>Jerry,
>
>Those are pretty amazing. I've certainly been thinking about a CCD camera 
>for some time but the $12K price tag for what I'd want from SBIG is a 
>bigger pill than I've been able to swallow. I was concerned about the OIII 
>sensitivity in the DSLRs but it's quite good in the images you linked to.
>
>I looked at his series of Veil nebula images and the one taken with the 
>D70 has the most cyan color of any of them.
>
>http://astro.nightsky.at/Photo/SNR/
>
>A modified D70 may be well be a viable alternative for those of us can't 
>drop $10K whenever we want. ;-) In a couple of years they'll probably be a 
>better model and no more expensive.
>
>These are not astrophotos but I put together a comparison of a butterfly 
>wing taken with film, a Nikon Coolpix 5700 and a Nikon D70 (unmodified). I 
>was comparing noise and resolution. Images are enlarged by 2 with no other 
>processing.
>
>http://images.aa6g.org/wing_detail.jpg  (760KB)
>
>The D70 is the best of the three and even the 5700 is better than the film 
>image.
>
>Chuck
>
>---------------------------------------
>
>>At 09:09 PM 2/27/2005, you wrote:
>>>What really gets me is the 2-3 digital SLR images in the mags month. 
>>>These things are sort of "up-and-coming". But are they worthy of the 
>>>recognition? They SIMPLY CANNOT COMPETE with film images. Sure digital 
>>>SLR's have advantages such as real-time viewing and instant download 
>>>which bypasses a scanner, but their Ha response and their noise levels 
>>>compared to film is a joke. Not to say there's not some nice digital SLR 
>>>images out there--there are; and they will get better. But the best 
>>>digital SLR images compred to the best film is no comparison at all.
>>
>>Hi Bobby,
>>
>>I'm sorry to have to disagree with you here.  Personally, I think that 
>>DSLR Images can be every bit as good as film.
>>
>>Perhaps you haven't seen the best astrophotography that is being done 
>>with DSLRs. Check these out ...
>>
>>M31 with a Nikon D70: http://astro.nightsky.at/Photo/Gal/M31_WN.html
>>
>>Flaming Star with Nikon D70: 
>>http://astro.nightsky.at/Photo/Neb/IC405_IC410_WN.html
>>
>>Horsehead with Nikon D70: http://astro.nightsky.at/Photo/Neb/B33_WN.html
>>
>>IC443 with Canon 300D: 
>>http://astrosurf.com/eyesinthesky/web/last/IC443-444.htm
>>
>>NGC 6726 with Nikon D70: http://www.pbase.com/terrylovejoy/image/33864126
>>
>>
>>Jerry
>>
>>
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