Re: [APML] A little M31 & M45

["Chris Cook" <ccook@cape.com>]

I feel it is taken too far when the image starts to have an unnatural soft
look to it.  Look at Scott's M31, its nice and sharp, M45 is not.
Film guys are not the only ones who sometimes take smoothing too far.  I've
seen numerous CCD'ers take it too far, as least for my taste.

Chris

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Chris Cook Photography
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris Schur" <comets133@yahoo.com>
To: "Discussion of Film Astrophotography" <astro-photo@seds.org>
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 4:56 PM
Subject: Re: [APML] A little M31 & M45


> Scott, I like both images alot.  I am intruiged by C.
> Cooks comment on the smoothing.  How much is too much?
> I agree if the image looks like its made of plastic,
> thats too far.  In your case it does not, but lacks
> any grain at all.  Thats the way the true sky is!  Of
> course there is no "grain" in the real nebula.  But
> years of fast grainy films have hardened many of us to
> expect SOME grain in every image, even if its not
> really there in space.  As I have found by similar
> comments on my images, I can satisfy most people if I
> leave a small but visible amount of noise in the
> picture after the grain smoothing process.  Can anyone
> add to this, how much smoothing is the limit or
> considered acceptable in film shots?
>
> Chris Schur  (the other chris...)
> --- Scott Hammonds <shammonds@creatorsview.com> wrote:
>
> >  Here are two more shots from my trip to New Mexico
> > in October, I'm almost
> > through posting these, I promise.
> > Both were taken with my 4" Tele Vue refractor using
> > hypered RG200 select.
> > Although not spectacular compared to some of the
> > past posts here, they are
> > probably my personal best on these targets. I used a
> > mask blur technique
> > from Jerry's book to help reduce the grain, which
> > wasn't terrible with this
> > film.
> >
> >
> http://www.creatorsview.com/astrophoto/nms04/andromeda.html
> >
> >
> http://www.creatorsview.com/astrophoto/nms04/pleiades.html
> >
> >
> > Comments, criticism and observations welcome,
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Scott Hammonds
> > www.creatorsview.com
> >
> >
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