Re: [APML] Film vs Digital - is film really dead?

["Jim Ives" <flyboy9990@earthlink.net>]

Of course the members of the APML tend be exceptions from the above.  We
film types understand that excellent results can be achieved with less
expense and more cleverness and elbow grease, with a longer payback cycle.

  Matt is this really true? More elbow grease? I never shot CCD but just
based on what Tony said about the noise it sounds like so much trouble in
it's own way.
    I think your are correct though about the SBIG list. I do see quite a
bit of "first light" images there.
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt BenDaniel" <matt@starmatt.com>
To: <astro-photo@seds.org>
Cc: <critter12952@yahoo.com>
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 12:07 PM
Subject: Re: [APML] Film vs Digital - is film really dead?


> Alan,
>
> Take a look on the Yahoo SBIG Group.  It has thousands of members and more
> newbies than the APML.  Newer generations of imagers have increasing
> facility with computers.  The biggest difference of younger imagers is
> that they prefer the instant feedback and the automation that digital
> media provide.  They also tend to be more willing to spend money on
> ready-made components than home-spinning their own hardware solutions.
>
> Of course the members of the APML tend be exceptions from the above.  We
> film types understand that excellent results can be achieved with less
> expense and more cleverness and elbow grease, with a longer payback cycle.
>
> That said, I agree with your impression of CCD.  Even though I'm
> computer-savvy, I've found adjusting to CCD suprisingly difficult.  It
> seems that CCD cameras and the related computer technologies have more
> failure modes which are harder to diagnose.  Nevertheless I feel impelled
> to master CCD so as not to become outdated.  In the meantime, film is
> still my preferred medium, and I intend to stay with it until the last
> good astro films disappear.
> --
> Matt BenDaniel
> http://starmatt.com
>
> Alan Voetsch said:
> > --- Matt BenDaniel <matt@starmatt.com> wrote:
> >> It's
> >> plain fact today that we see many more newbie astrophotographers
> >> succeeding with CCD than we do with film. These newbies have been
> >> swayed by the advertising. The editors cite this trend as inherent
> >> superiority of digital media.
> >
> > I can tell you this; if I were starting in AP with a new CCD camera, I
> > would fail miserably. Some may be better suited for it than me, but with
> > the increased reliance on a computer, I would be in BIG trouble.
> >
> > I would have to say that while more might be succeeding, more overall
> > are failing. The CCD learning curve is quite steep. The ones who do
> > succeed most likely have a friend who also succeeded, or happened into
> > one of the online help groups.
> >
> > Alan
>
>
>
>
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