Re: [APML] 12" & 14" LX200

[steve banbury <banburys@sonic.net>]

I suspect the "magic ingredient" on Meade coatings
is bolonium!!

:^} steve

At 06:07 PM 12/17/02 -0500, you wrote:
>The Old coatings they called "SMC" for Super Multi
Coatings. Pretty mystic
>as to what makes them super I would say.
>Jim
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Radu Corlan" <rcorlan@pcnet.ro>
>To: <astro-photo@seds.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 3:37 PM
>Subject: Re: [APML] 12" & 14" LX200
>
>
>> On Tue, 17 Dec 2002, Jim Ives wrote:
>>
>> > Alan I question the authenticity of the UHTC on the new
Meade scopes.
>Only
>> > for the fact that they show the "standard
coatings" as having a
>transmission
>> > of 80%. I don't remember off hand the days before the UHTC
came out, but
>I
>> > doubt if before those days they would have advertised their
transmission
>> > percentages as only 80%. Everyone would have went with the
Celestron
>right
>> > off.
>>
>> It's simple: 'standard coatings' are the new non-UHTC, which are
MgF, not
>> the 'classic' multi-coatings. So, what they actually did, was
making the
>> coatings an option, and maybe changing the formula a little bit.
I would
>> expect the UHTC to be in the same league as the 'classic'
coatings (and
>> Celestron's). The advertised gain is over the new 'standard'
coatings.
>>
>> Radu
>>
>> >     In other words how can there (looking at graph in
current Meade ad)
>> > standard coatings suddenly be only 80% transmission when
before I'm sure
>> > they were advertised as being somewhere in the 90% range? 
Should dig up
>an
>> > older S&T and look at their advertisement.
>> > Jim Ives
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Alan Voetsch"
<critter12952@yahoo.com>
>> > To: <astro-photo@seds.org>
>> > Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 2:46 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [APML] 12" & 14" LX200
>> >
>> >
>> > > Hi Eddie,
>> > >
>> > > --- Eddie Guscott
<eddie.guscott@blueyonder.co.uk>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > > I understand that the 14" Meade SC is priced
to
>> > > > "persuade" people not to buy
>> > > > the Celestron C14.
>> > > > If you look at the pricing structure of the
full
>> > > > range of Meades, the 14"
>> > > > would "appear" to have an artificially
low/good
>> > > > price.
>> > >
>> > > I don't necessarily think so. They go from (I'm
>> > > rounding) $2000 for the 8", $2500-10",
$3000-12",
>> > > $4300 for the 14". That last is a pretty good
jump.
>> > > The tripod is the same, the drive gears and the
forks
>> > > are supposed (?) to be a little beefier. That
makes
>> > > the extra glass pretty pricey.
>> > >
>> > > Having a 12" (that cost me $4000 plus S&H),
naturally
>> > > I yearn for the next step up. We all know this 
as
>> > > "Aperture Fever'. :-)
>> > >
>> > >  What I really want are the GPS goodies (mirror
lock
>> > > and the microfocuser). It occurs to me that for a
few
>> > > hundred more dollars than I paid for my 12"LX
200, I
>> > > could have the improved 14" GPS, a complete EP
set,
>> > > and UHTC, which most likely equals out as 15".
I'd go
>> > > for it. A note here; I bought my first LX200 (a
10")
>> > > in 1993 for about $3100 including S&H.
>> > >
>> > > I have to believe that anything that gets some of
our
>> > > very expensive equipment priced a little more
>> > > reasonably is a good thing. Competition helps that.
If
>> > > Celestron goes out of business, no, that won't help
as
>> > > they are Meade's only real competition. Personally,
I
>> > > believe there has been price inflation, and 
price
>> > > fixing, involved here for a long time. With 
lower
>> > > sales, higher prices will be gotten. With mass
sales,
>> > > prices can be brought down. Meade is bringing
these
>> > > scopes into everyones price range, I suspect that
will
>> > > do more good than harm.
>> > >
>> > > Sorry, I've been rambling.
>> > >
>> > > Alan
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
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