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Re: [APML]: Byers drive and the MototrakIV




> From:          Steve Bell <sb635@delphi.com>

> The simple JMI DC motors have just two wires, one for plus and one for
> minus.

If it only has two leads it's not a DC stepper motor, just a plain 
old DC motor.
 
> I'm pretty sure just putting a 110V AC to 12V DC
> transformer between it and the MotoTrak will give you that, although I
> don't know if it will have enough power to turn a whole scope. What I
> didn't know was what goes on the the Hz coming out of the MotoTrak was
> increased and decreased, but my experiment shows that works too. Or at
> least it does speed up and slow down a simple DC motor.

You may get a speed change, but I question the speed precision and 
rate stability of a simple DC motor for astrophotography.  AC synchro 
and DC steppers don't care if the voltage fluctuates a bit over time. 
. .it's the rate of the pulses/voltage swings that determine their 
shaft rate. . .and that's crystal controlled to a pretty high 
precision.  Simple DC motors are driven by voltage. . .and any 
voltage changes (or even any rough/higher drag spots on their 
bearings, or on the rest of the drive train) will change the motor's 
rate.

My simple DC motor for declination adjustment has its rate controlled 
by (I think) pulse width modulation.  In other words for low 
speeds an oscillator/timer allows the full 12V to get to the motor - 
but in a narrow/short duration, fast repeating pulse.  In effect the 
circuit is "on" only a fraction of the time - also called the duty 
cycle. For higher speed you make this "on" pulse duration longer 
without changing the pulse frequency (duty cycle increases.)  For max 
speed the circuit is on all the time and the duty cycle is 100%.  
Pulse width modulation allows good DC motor torque at low speeds - 
better than just pumping a lower voltage through the motor. You get 
less tendency of the motor stalling and moving in a jerky fashion.  

But I don't think a simple DC motor with pulse width modulation is 
stable enough for a right ascension drive.  You need an AC synchro or 
DC stepper with a crystal controlled frequency base.

Tom Krajci

PS.  You can use pulse width modulation with DC steppers. . .that 
allows "micro stepping" with digital (a laptop computer) 
controlling electronics instead of resorting to analog electronics.  
With micro stepping you can take a 200 step/revolution motor and 
divide that into about 10 micro steps per whole step - and get 2000 
microsteps per revolution.  Helps smooth the motor motion and may 
give you a little better positional accuracy of the stepper shaft.  A 
great application of that for computer controlled telescopes is at:  
http://www.efn.org/~mbartels/tindex.html  schematics, text, photos, 
software!  Some day I'll have a monster like that!

Capt Tom Krajci
B-52 Intelligence Officer
"Military Intelligence - an oxymoron!"
http://spur.barksdale.af.mil