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Re: [APML] Agfa Optima Prestige film



Pardon my lack of knowledge - what does it mean by +2 f-stops.  Does it 
mean that on a lens with f/1.7, f/2, and f/2.4 that instead of f/1.7 I 
need f/2.4?  Or is it the other way around?

Walter

Bert Katzung wrote:

> Hi Walter:
> 2 stops at 100 sec signifies serious reciprocity failure. If it was 
> equal across the 3 layers, it wouldn't be so bad, you could compensate 
> by increasing exposure more. Unfortunately, it is rarely equal and as 
> a result, as in the examples on my webpage, the color balance gets 
> horribly skewed.
> Bert
>  
> Bert Katzung
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>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: Walter Willis <mailto:wwillis1@qwest.net>
>     To: Discussion of Film Astrophotography <mailto:astro-photo@seds.org>
>     Sent: Monday, 25 August, 2003 3:10 PM
>     Subject: Re: [APML] Agfa Optima Prestige film
>
>     The AGFA data sheet actually does show some reciprocity info, up
>     to 100 seconds exposure.  With this film it calls for an
>     adjustment of +2 f-stops.
>      
>     Walter Willis
>     Life without chocolate is too terrible to contemplate
>      
>      
>
>         ----- Original Message -----
>         From: Roland Roberts <mailto:roland@astrofoto.org>
>         To: astro-photo@seds.org <mailto:astro-photo@seds.org>
>         Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 2:57 PM
>         Subject: Re: [APML] Agfa Optima Prestige film
>
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>         >>>>> "Bert" == Bert Katzung <katzung1@comcast.net
>         <mailto:katzung1@comcast.net>> writes:
>
>             Bert> I've never used Optima Prestige, but recommendations of
>             Bert> daylight photographers, professional or otherwise, are
>             Bert> generally worthless for astro applications. The
>         reciprocity
>             Bert> characteristics of films are generally unknown to
>         them (and
>             Bert> sometimes to the manufacturer as well, when it comes
>         to 1
>             Bert> hour exposures) and reciprocity is critical for our
>         stuff.
>
>         As a small footnote to this, I recently picked up a book on large
>         format photography.  Interestingly enough, it has a set of charts
>         showing reciprocity adjustments for a large number of films.  The
>         chart only extends to about 120 seconds (nominal, the adjusted
>         exposure may be much longer).  So *some* professional
>         photographers
>         are at least aware of the problem.  Too bad Kodak, Fuji, Agfa,
>         etc. don't publish similar charts....
>
>         regards,
>
>         roland
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