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Re: [APML] CCD on APML (was: NGC 7331)




Personally, I subscribe to this list:

1.) To learn the art of AP from the individuals here who expose their
experience to the film discussion group I have no qualms with CCD--I cannot
afford the equipment right now--and in any case, I believe that many would
agree (but please don't start another thread on this) that there is great
benefit to learning the basics with the demanding but much less expensive
film format--plus starting with piggyback photography is not feasible with
CCD, but a great place to start before moving to the demanding prime focus.
Had I jumped into ANY medium of prime focus AP first without leveraging
this list, I would probably have given up AP altogether.  Instead, I'm
starting to produce some satisfactory images, and have enjoyed and stayed
with the hobby.

In any case, if one goes through the film AP "apprenticeship", so to speak,
and decides that AP isn't for him, then you're not out there hocking back
your expensive CCD camera.

**The bottom line is, this list is a great place to start, and to learn
film, and to continue to learn through one's AP career.  It's
astrophotography, it's affordable, and you never completely master it.
Whether or not you decide to explore other mediums, its relevance never
goes away.

2.) To enjoy the AP images posted here.  I don't care what the medium is; I
just enjoy the images.  I challenge anyone to disagree with the statement
that *every* image posted, regardless of the medium, has value, and
benefits the experience and knowledge of every individual on this list, and
contributes to their appreciation of AP.

3.) To learn image processing techniques.  It's been stated her many times
that, after the scan, there is no practical difference in the process of
bringing out the details of an image.

The list still provides me with all the reasons I subscribed in the first
place, and one day I may well be able to afford and experiment with another
medium.  I do not mind the CCD-centric discussions; what I do mind is the
noise that gets generated when the film-vs-CCD debate surfaces.

The nature of this list may change or evolve, or it may not.  In any case,
can we just agree to maximize the benefits to all subscribers by posting
and critiquing images, and follow our off-line practice of striving to
improve signal-to-noise?


Steve Holak
Senior Software Architect

Brokerage Concepts IS Dept.
610-491-4879

email:  steve.holak@bcitpa.com


                                                                                                                        
                    Stosh                                                                                               
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Greetings Jerry and all,

Jerry Lodriguss wrote:

> ........snip
>
> It's just that this particular list is not about new cars, and some
> people just don't seem to get it.
>
> Jerry


I would guess that most people don't seem to get it and therefore
probably disagree with you.  Everything you say when referring to old
cars is correct, but I don't think your analogy is an accurate one.  I
didn't join APML 5 years ago for nostalgic reasons or old cars as you
put it.  I don't think many people at all joined for that reason.  But I
do see and understand why the list may end up moving in that direction.
 I joined because I had some photo gear and wanted to make the most of
it.  I wanted to take the best astrophotos possible with my means.  I
could be wrong, but I believe the majority of APML subscribers/members
are in a similar "boat".  Yes, if I purchase other equipment then I will
look to other lists, but for now, as long as *something* relates to film
AP, I actually enjoy the occasional "OT: CCD".

Stosh

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